'File 8/7 I Jidda Intelligence Reports' [7r] (13/536)
The record is made up of 1 file (266 folios). It was created in Jul 1931-Dec 1934. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.
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Sheykh ’Abdul ’Aziz up to this point agreed to all suggestions, but
suddenly torpedoed all the proceedings by saying that he had no authority
to make any agreement witnout reference to Ibn ,Sa’ud and he absolutely
refused to allow any paper embodying the terms to be drawn up for mutual
He stated, however, that he had received a letter from Ibn Sa'ud
saying that he hoped that powers to treat with the Trans-Jordan Govern
ment Kepresentative would shortly be given.
21. This meeting, however, was only a preliminary one, designed to
establish contact between the two frontier representatives. Their main
meeting for the settlement of all matters connected with raids since August
1st 19JO were to follow. Meanwhile, on August 1 the Hejazi Under
secretary offered to come to Jedda to discuss the preliminary meeting, but
His Majesty’s Charge d’ Affaires replied that he thought that they could
not advance matters by discussing what was merely an exchange of views
at the preliminary meeting; and as the terms of reference of the main meet
ing had already been settled after full discussion (see May-June Report
paragraphs 26-27), he considered that it should be left to the two frontier
representatives to carry on. Although not strictly wUthin the scope of this
Report, it is convenient to mention here that Fuad Bay, in a senes of
conversations held at Jedda on September 1 to 3, made another and more
determined attempt to start a discussion of additional principles, by which
the Glubb-Ibn Seyd meetings for the settlement of past raids should in his
view be controlled. He was ridden off.
22. The Legation has been somewhat hampered by lack of concise and
up-to-date information from Trans-Jordan about the passage of events
which interest it closely. News of the preliminary meeting having taken
place on June 3 was first received through the Hejazi Government. Inform
ation as to its outcome was not received from Trans-Jordan until nearly
two months later. The first main meeting was held on August 15 but the
Legation was only apprised of the fact on September 1 and through Hejazi
channels. Information from Trans-Jordan came to hand on September 15,
in the form of report by Captain Glubb dated August 19.
23. (b) Meeting of August 15 .—There were separately two items on
the agenda of the main meeting of August 15, (1) the return of loot taken
since the 1st August 1930, an era which divided at the 1st Ramadhan
(January 19) into two looting periods, the greater and the less, and (2) the
settlement of future procedure. In regard to the first item, Ibn Seyd stated
that he had not prepared a list, which rendered examination of the claims
impossible, but Captain Glubb succeeded in securing his agreement to
attempt an immediate restitution of the little loot taken since January.
19. In regard to the second item, Ibn Seyd was equally unprepared,
having he said received no instructions to discuss future procedure. Captain
Glubb raised two further matters, (3) the taxation of Trans-Jordan tribes
men in Nejd territory, on which point Ibn Seyd replied hat he had implicit
orders to tax, and (4) the “numerous protests” by the Hejazi Government
against his, Captain Glubb’s, activities since his last meeting with Ibn
Seyd. There seems to have been some misconception of the real position
here, for only one protest was made, under three main heads, and it was
made from Mecca on the same day as the meeting at Hashim Wells, June 3
(see May-June Report paragraph 29). So that when Ibn Seyd expressed
to Captain Glubb his astonishment at “the continued despatch of such
protests, in view of the fact that after their first meeting he had written at
length to Ibn Sa’ud” to persuade him of Captain Glubb’s real merit, it
seems that their feelings were being unnecessarily harrowed.
24. With regard to this first main meeting of August 15, it may be
added for purposes of record that, whereas Fuad Bey informed ' His
Majesty’s Minister on June 21 that instructions for the meeting had been
sent to Ibn Seyd, adding that it would be better if Captain Glubb were to
wait a few days before arranging the meeting so as to allow time for the
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The file contains intelligence reports on the Kingdom of Hejaz, Najd and its Dependencies (after September 1932, Saudi Arabia) written by the British Legation at Jeddah.
Between July 1931 and December 1932 the reports are issued every two months, with the exception of the January-March 1932 and April 1932 reports. From January 1933 the reports are sent on a monthly basis.
Between July 1931 and December 1932, each report is divided into sections, numbered with Roman numerals from I to IX, as follows: Internal Affairs; Frontier Questions; Relations with States outside Arabia; Air Matters; Military Matters; Naval Matters; Pilgrimage; Slavery; and Miscellaneous. Each section is then further divided into parts relating to a particular matter or place, under a sub-heading. Some reports contain an annex.
From January 1933, when the reports become monthly, they take a new format. Each is divided into sections, as follows: Internal Affairs; Frontier Questions and Foreign Relations in Arabia; Relations with Powers Outside Arabia; Miscellaneous (often containing information on slavery and the pilgrimage).
Most reports are preceded by the covering letters from the Government of India, who distributed them to Political Offices in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. and elsewhere, and the original covering letter from the Jeddah Legation, who would send them to the Government of India and Government departments in London. From May 1933, most reports were sent directly to the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Bahrain from Jeddah.
Up until January 1933, each report began with an index giving a breakdown of the sections with references to the corresponding paragraph number. From January 1933 onwards no index is included.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover and terminates at the back cover; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional incomplete foliation sequence is also present in parallel between ff 6-11; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and are located in the same position as the main sequence.
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