Skip to item: of 452
Information about this record Back to top
Open in Universal viewer
Open in Mirador IIIF viewer

'File 1/A/38 I Negotiations with Bin Saud re:- Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [‎42v] (89/452)

The record is made up of 1 volume (219 folios). It was created in 27 Oct 1934-24 Feb 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

Transcription

This transcription is created automatically. It may contain errors.

Apply page layout

2
4. The King received me at 9 a.m. I was accompanied as before by
Mr. Furlonge and Ismail Effendi, who interpreted, bheikh lussuf Yasm was I
m attendance^ compliment ^ j gaid that my Government had wished me to take
the first opportunity of expressing to the King m person the great pleasure with
which they had heard of the Saudi-Yemen settlement and their sense of the
wisdom which His Majesty had shown in dealing with that matter. I he King!
observed that he desired peace with all his neighbours, firstly, because they were!
Arabs, and secondly, because there was nothing to divide them. Kelymg, as ne
always did, on the friendship of His Majesty’s Government, he had sought their
advice. It accorded with his own views, and he had acted on it. I said tnatl
His Majesty’s Government believed the settlement to be m the best interest ot
Arabia and gave the credit for it to the King, who had shown himness, and hadi
known how to show moderation as well in the last phase. )
6. The King’s repeated affirmation of his friendship for His Majesty s
Government gave me the opportunity of saying that it was a primary point in
my instructions that I was to reaffirm their friendly dispositions, which were
unchanged and unchangeable, towards him and his country. I referred to the
importance of removing all possible obstacles to complete friendship by settling
certain questions, and to the wish of His Majesty’s Government to be informed
as to the desiderata of the King.
7. The King started with the subject of Iraq. His statements were long
and involved, but his drift was clear. He thought that all the Arab States
needed some outside Power to rely on, and, though there were other friends,
that Power should be Great Britain, who was in close relations with all of the
States concerned. He was worried lest Iraq, the strongest of the Arab States,
should be attacked by Turkey and/or Persia, and lest he should be menaced
through Iraq as a result. He observed that he was currently supposed to be
hostile to the ruling family of Iraq, but the truth was that he had nothing
against them. He desired their interest as well as his own. If the arrangements
between His Majesty’s Government and Iraq were such as to secure Iraq against
the attacks he feared, he would be easy in his mind. When Fuad Bey had spoken
of an Arab alliance, he had had in mind some arrangement between Iraq and
Saudi Arabia to ensure their mutual safety. The King intimated that he would
like to see some such arrangement arrived at under the auspices of His Majesty’s
Government, the friend of both.
8. 1 explained that my conversations with Fuad Bey, which had not been
completed owing to his illness, had not carried us quite as far as the King
suggested, e.g., he had not used the word “alliance” in connexion with Iraq.
I was all the more anxious to ascertain the King’s exact meaning, in order that
I might convey his ideas in a definite form to my Government. I gathered from
his statement that he had in mind three possible things in connexion with the
dangers he feared : (a) He had said that he would be easy in his mind, if assured
that the arrangements between His Majesty’s Government and Iraq sufficed to
safeguard the latter; (6) he had spoken of the possibility of some sort of alliance
or defensive treaty between him and Iraq; (c) he had spoken as though he
contemplated some sort of an alliance to which His Majesty’s Government could
be a party.
9. The King did not demur to my analysis. After some further exchanges,
I observed that point (c) was the only one on which I could speak. His Majesty’s
Government were animated in regard to the Arab States by a desire to see them
prosper and by the friendly sentiments of which we had spoken, but it was
contrary to their general policy to enter into alliances except in very special cases.
Their treaty with Iraq was defined as a “ Treaty of Alliance,” but that alliance
was the resultant of a process by which Iraq had evolved from her Turkish
provincial status, through British occupation and subsequent dependence on His
Majesty s Government, to hei present position. This was a special case, and
that of Saudi Arabia presented no analogy, for the simple reason that Ibn Sand
had never been dependent on Great Britain. Great Britain had created Iraa.
The King had created himself.
at • > r ^ le sa id that he was not insisting on an alliance with His
Majesty s Government. Their firm friendship was as good as any alliance He
redefined his ideas m terms which amounted to this : that he would like to come
to an arrangement with Iraq, under the auspices of His Majesty’s Government,

About this item

Content

The volume concerns the Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar and Trucial Oman A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. (also referred to as the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ), and negotiations over the boundary between British officials and Ibn Saud (referred to also as Bin Saud) [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, King of Saudi Arabia].

The volume contains reports and correspondence, principally from the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ; HM Minister, Jedda [Jeddah] (Sir Andrew Ryan); other Foreign Office officials; the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain; Bertram Sydney Thomas; and officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

The papers include: extracts prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. , for the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , from a report by Bertram Thomas on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927 (folios 8-21); papers on Anglo-Saudi relations and records of negotiations between HM Minister, Jeddah and the Deputy Saudi Arabian Minister for Foreign Affairs (Fuad Bey Hamza [Fu’ād Ḥamzah]), July-October 1934 (folios 37-60); further papers concerning Anglo-Saudi negotiations; papers prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle) concerning Ibn Saud and the Yemen campaign, November 1934 (folios 74-77); a letter from the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Muscat (Major Claude Edward Urquhart Bremner), dated 23 October 1934, concerning the boundaries of Muscat Sultanate (folios 78-80); a Foreign Office note dated 19 December 1934 entitled 'South-Eastern Arabian frontier and United States Oil Concessions' (folios 122-124); papers relating to the Blue Line [a line drawn by British and Turkish officials in 1913 from the Gulf of Uqair to parallel 20 degrees North, in the Rub al-Khali]; and papers concerning tribal affairs (e.g. report by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Lieutenant-Colonel Percy Gordon Loch) entitled 'Tribal situation in the Hinterland of the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ', folios 140-146).

The date range gives the covering dates of the correspondence; the earliest document is an enclosure on folios 8-21 containing extracts from Bertram Thomas's report on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927, and the last dated addition to the file is an entry in the notes dated 25 February 1935.

Extent and format
1 volume (219 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are filed in chronological order from the front to the back of the file, except where enclosures of an earlier date are filed after their relevant covering letter, and terminate in a set of notes (folios 211-216).

Physical characteristics

Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 221; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is also present in parallel between ff 6-216; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and are located in same position as the main sequence.

Written in
English in Latin script
View the complete information for this record

Use and share this item

Share this item
Cite this item in your research

'File 1/A/38 I Negotiations with Bin Saud re:- Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [‎42v] (89/452), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/R/15/2/157, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100026566622.0x00005a> [accessed 18 April 2024]

Link to this item
Embed this item

Copy and paste the code below into your web page where you would like to embed the image.

<meta charset="utf-8"><a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100026566622.0x00005a">'File 1/A/38 I Negotiations with Bin Saud re:- Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [&lrm;42v] (89/452)</a>
<a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100026566622.0x00005a">
	<img src="https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000193.0x00037c/IOR_R_15_2_157_0089.jp2/full/!280,240/0/default.jpg" alt="" />
</a>
IIIF details

This record has a IIIF manifest available as follows. If you have a compatible viewer you can drag the icon to load it.https://www.qdl.qa/en/iiif/81055/vdc_100000000193.0x00037c/manifestOpen in Universal viewerOpen in Mirador viewerMore options for embedding images

Use and reuse
Download this image