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'File 1/A/38 I Negotiations with Bin Saud re:- Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [‎57r] (118/452)

The record is made up of 1 volume (219 folios). It was created in 27 Oct 1934-24 Feb 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Fuad Bey acquiesced, and explained that what was intended was a return
to the situation as it existed before the abortive Haifa Conference of 1928. He
suggested, however, that the Saudi Government might reserve their position in
regard to the ownership of the railway in an official note.
No objection was seen in principle to this procedure, though it was pointed
out to Fuad Bey that something would depend on the actual wording of the
Saudi reservation.
Fuad Bey explained that the matter had hitherto only been dealt with
unofficially. If His Majesty’s Government were prepared to accept the Saudi
suggestion, his Government contemplated addressing an official note on the whole
subject to both the British and French Governments, and proposing therein a
technical conference on the lines he had indicated.
It was agreed that the next step was for His Majesty’s Government to reply
to the outstanding Saudi enquiry, which could not, however, be done until the
views of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan authorities had been obtained. •
The next subject on Fuad Bey’s list was the question of telegraphic and
wireless communication between Saudi Arabia and the outer world, with
particular reference to the provisions of the Jedda-Port Sudan Cable Agreement.
Fuad Bey recalled the fact that the Saudi Government were debarred by
article 6 of this agreement from using their wireless stations in the Hejaz for
the purpose of communication with other countries. When the agreement had
been signed there were two separate Governments, in the Hejaz and in Nejd,
and the agreement had been interpreted as applying to the Hejaz only. The
situation had now greatly changed in every respect; and the Saudi Government
were finding it exceedingly inconvenient to be obliged to send all telegraphic
communications from the Hejaz by the Port Sudan cable. A French company,
the Radio Orient, and various Italian interests had also approached the Saudi
Government in the matter.
Sir A. Ryan recalled that the working agreement had been entered into by
the Sudan and Hejaz Governments jointly as joint owners, and by the Eastern
Telegraph Company as workers, of the cable. The agreement was terminable on
two years’ notice, to be given either by both joint owners or by the company.
Fuad Bey said that an exchange of notes had taken place between the Sudan
and Saudi Governments arranging that if the Saudi Government should approach
the Sudan Government with a view to the termination of the agreement, the
Sudan Government would agree to join in giving the required notice.
Sir A. stated that the interpretation of the agreement had in the past
given rise to various legal difficulties which had not, however, been pursued, as
the amalgamation of the Eastern Telegraph Company with Marconis seemed to
have simplified the problem. On the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. side, however, a somewhat
similar problem had arisen over the question of communications between Hasa
and Bahrein. Conversations had taken place between King Ibn Saud, Sheikh
Yusuf Yasin and Sir H. Biscoe in 1932. No advance had been made, and the
matter had lain dormant for some time, but had lately been revived, and Elis
Majesty’s Charge d’Affaires at Jedda had been instructed to revert to it with
the Saudi Government.
Fuad Bey Hamza also raised the question of the charges on the cable. It
was agreed, however, that the question of the interpretation of the Jedda-Port
Sudan Cable Agreement and of Saudi wireless communications with other
countries was a very technical one and one in which His Majesty’s Government
in the P^nited Kingdom were not very directly interested, and that it would be
preferable, therefore, that this question should not be dealt with in the proposed
general settlement. It was agreed that the best course would be for a meeting
to be arranged before Fuad Bey’s departure from London between himself and
representatives of Cables and Wireless (Limited) (now incorporating inter alia
both the Eastern Telegraph Company and Marconis) and, if possible, some
representative of the Sudan Government, possibly Sir Stewart Symes, who was
understood to be in England on leave.
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The volume concerns the Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar and Trucial Oman A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. (also referred to as the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ), and negotiations over the boundary between British officials and Ibn Saud (referred to also as Bin Saud) [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, King of Saudi Arabia].

The volume contains reports and correspondence, principally from the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ; HM Minister, Jedda [Jeddah] (Sir Andrew Ryan); other Foreign Office officials; the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain; Bertram Sydney Thomas; and officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

The papers include: extracts prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. , for the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , from a report by Bertram Thomas on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927 (folios 8-21); papers on Anglo-Saudi relations and records of negotiations between HM Minister, Jeddah and the Deputy Saudi Arabian Minister for Foreign Affairs (Fuad Bey Hamza [Fu’ād Ḥamzah]), July-October 1934 (folios 37-60); further papers concerning Anglo-Saudi negotiations; papers prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle) concerning Ibn Saud and the Yemen campaign, November 1934 (folios 74-77); a letter from the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Muscat (Major Claude Edward Urquhart Bremner), dated 23 October 1934, concerning the boundaries of Muscat Sultanate (folios 78-80); a Foreign Office note dated 19 December 1934 entitled 'South-Eastern Arabian frontier and United States Oil Concessions' (folios 122-124); papers relating to the Blue Line [a line drawn by British and Turkish officials in 1913 from the Gulf of Uqair to parallel 20 degrees North, in the Rub al-Khali]; and papers concerning tribal affairs (e.g. report by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Lieutenant-Colonel Percy Gordon Loch) entitled 'Tribal situation in the Hinterland of the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ', folios 140-146).

The date range gives the covering dates of the correspondence; the earliest document is an enclosure on folios 8-21 containing extracts from Bertram Thomas's report on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927, and the last dated addition to the file is an entry in the notes dated 25 February 1935.

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1 volume (219 folios)
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The papers are filed in chronological order from the front to the back of the file, except where enclosures of an earlier date are filed after their relevant covering letter, and terminate in a set of notes (folios 211-216).

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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 221; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is also present in parallel between ff 6-216; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and are located in same position as the main sequence.

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