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'File 1/A/38 I Negotiations with Bin Saud re:- Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [‎59v] (123/452)

The record is made up of 1 volume (219 folios). It was created in 27 Oct 1934-24 Feb 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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duty and the general discussion pursued at leisure. This could, if necessary be
pursued with Mr. Calvert, but I should prefer to leave it until h uad Bey and Ij
could deal with the matter on our reurn to Jedda. Fuad Bey noted my proposal.
6 . I used various arguments, which need not be recorded in detail, to impress
on Fuad Bey the importance of this question, urging inter alia that the Saudi
Government should take account of the great services rendered by the dispensaries.
They supplied wants which the Saudi Government were not as yet in a position
to satisfy, and the Saudi Government should not make their position impossible
by attempting to exercise excessive control or by adding customs duty to the
expenditure entailed, the amount of which was already worrying the Government
of India.
7. I told Fuad Bey that this was the most important of the small number
of questions which I had suggested adding to the list of those already discussed
with Mr. Rendel and myself. I need only advert to two others, viz., the pecuniary
claims of His Majesty’s Government against the Saudi Government, and the
position as regards British nationality in Saudi Arabia. The latter question
seemed to be progressing on satisfactory lines and I would not pursue it. I did
not wish at this moment to pursue definitely the question of the two debts of the
Saudi Government to His Majesty’s Government, but I reminded Fuad Bey that
we were very anxious to dispose of the matter, which was one on which we were
faced with strong insistence on the part of the Treasury. I recalled our proposal
that the trivial MacDonnell debt should be settled out of hand, and the liquidation
of the larger debt placed on a business basis. I added that I had induced His
Majesty’s Government to postpone the matter pending a clearing up of the
situation between Saudi Arabia and the Yemen. That situation had now been
liquidated, and I had again reminded Sheikh Yussuf Yasin of the debts shortly
before leaving Jedda.
8 . Fuad Bey threw out a personal suggestion that perhaps His Majesty’s
Government might now see their way to promote the flotation of a small loan in
this country, sufficient to enable the floating debt of his Government to be paid off.
He outlined in very general terms a scheme for the issue of bonds. I received
this suggestion very guardedly, but promised to report it. I explained that the
matter was outside my sphere and that I could not judge of the possibilities,
though I had no reason to think that the prospect of raising money for Saudi
Arabia would be any better now than it had been in 1932.
9. In conclusion, I told Fuad Bey, with reference to what had passed at
the third meeting about the Jedda—Port Sudan cable, that there was no hope of
bringing any adequately equipped representative of the Sudan Government into
a discussion of the matter before he left London. I had, however, just seen a
representative of Cable and Wireless (Limited), and had suggested that he should
meet Fuad Ley- This gentleman had agreed, subject to the reservation that any
proposals which might emerge would have to be submitted to the board of the
-company. The question of Saudi telegraphic communications had arisen in three
aspects, viz., cable rates, the position in regard to the present working agreement
between the joint owners of the cable {i.e., the Government of the Sudan and the
Flejaz) and the Eastern Telegraph Company, and the wish of the Saudi Govern
ment to establish wireless communication between Hasa and the outer world. I
thought that an entirely non-committal discussion would serve to out those
concerned in possession of each other’s views and desiderata.
/t • . Be J agreed to meet a representative of Cable and Wireless
(Limited), and it was arranged that they should meet to-morrow morning at the
Foreign Office, I being present.
September 24, 1934.
A. RYAN.

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The volume concerns the Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar and Trucial Oman A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. (also referred to as the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ), and negotiations over the boundary between British officials and Ibn Saud (referred to also as Bin Saud) [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, King of Saudi Arabia].

The volume contains reports and correspondence, principally from the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ; HM Minister, Jedda [Jeddah] (Sir Andrew Ryan); other Foreign Office officials; the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain; Bertram Sydney Thomas; and officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

The papers include: extracts prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. , for the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , from a report by Bertram Thomas on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927 (folios 8-21); papers on Anglo-Saudi relations and records of negotiations between HM Minister, Jeddah and the Deputy Saudi Arabian Minister for Foreign Affairs (Fuad Bey Hamza [Fu’ād Ḥamzah]), July-October 1934 (folios 37-60); further papers concerning Anglo-Saudi negotiations; papers prepared by the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle) concerning Ibn Saud and the Yemen campaign, November 1934 (folios 74-77); a letter from the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Muscat (Major Claude Edward Urquhart Bremner), dated 23 October 1934, concerning the boundaries of Muscat Sultanate (folios 78-80); a Foreign Office note dated 19 December 1934 entitled 'South-Eastern Arabian frontier and United States Oil Concessions' (folios 122-124); papers relating to the Blue Line [a line drawn by British and Turkish officials in 1913 from the Gulf of Uqair to parallel 20 degrees North, in the Rub al-Khali]; and papers concerning tribal affairs (e.g. report by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Lieutenant-Colonel Percy Gordon Loch) entitled 'Tribal situation in the Hinterland of the Trucial Coast A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. ', folios 140-146).

The date range gives the covering dates of the correspondence; the earliest document is an enclosure on folios 8-21 containing extracts from Bertram Thomas's report on the Trans-Oman air route reconnaissance of May-June 1927, and the last dated addition to the file is an entry in the notes dated 25 February 1935.

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1 volume (219 folios)
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The papers are filed in chronological order from the front to the back of the file, except where enclosures of an earlier date are filed after their relevant covering letter, and terminate in a set of notes (folios 211-216).

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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 221; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is also present in parallel between ff 6-216; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and are located in same position as the main sequence.

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