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'File 1/A/38 II Negotiations with Bin Saud re: Eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar & Trucial Oman.' [‎98r] (200/472)

The record is made up of 1 volume (232 folios). It was created in 27 Feb 1935-13 Oct 1935. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY’S GOVERNMENT
EASTERN (Arabia). July 5, 1935.
CONFIDENTIAL. Section 1.
[E 4218/318/25]
Record of the Fourth Meetinq with Fuad Bey Hamza at the Foreign Office on
'July 5, 1935.
THE following were present:
Mr. Rendel.
Sir A. Ryan.
Mr. Laithwaite, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .
Mr. Ward.
Mr. Malcolm.
I.
The first subject to be discussed was the question of the eastern and south
eastern frontiers of Saudi Arabia.
Mr. RENDEL said that no further progress appeared for the moment to
be possible, and that it was now for each side to consider the arguments put
forward by the other. His Majesty’s Government, for their part, would await
the statement which Fuad Bey had promised at the last meeting regarding the
diras or tribal areas of the three and a half tribes claimed by Iving Abdul Aziz,
with particular reference to the southern sector of the boundaiy proposed b}
Majesty’s Government. Mr. Rendel said that it would be particularly useful if
Fuad Bey could accompany this statement with a map which could show roughly
(in, say, gradations of shading or colour) the areas claimed as exclusively,
predominantly or onlv partially inhabited, or wandered over, by paiticular tribes.
FUAD BEY HAMZA explained that he would have difficulty in meeting
this latter request, but that he hoped shortly to have ready a list of over 150 names
of wells, water-holes, &c., showing to which tribes and sections oi sub-sections of
tribes they were regarded as belonging.
Mr RENDEL expressed the hope that the statement might be available as
soon as possible; but he explained that it would, of course, have to be referred
to the British authorities in the Gulf and at Aden, so that it might be some weeks
before His Majesty’s Government could reply to it.
Fuad Bey Hamza.
Sheikh Hafiz Wahba.
II.
Mr. RENDEL then said that he wished to speak to Fuad Bey about the
Saudi blockade of Koweit, or rather, since Fuad Bey did not like that term about
the problem of the economic relations between Saudi Arabia and Koweit. Me
beo-an by outlining to Fuad Bey the information contained m the latest telegrams
from the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. regarding the position reached
in the local conference which had recently been taking place at Koweit between
the delegates of the sheikh and those of King Abdul Aziz. It appeared from
these telegrams that, while the King was ready to adopt the Sheikh of KoweR s
suggestion of a customs and manifest system, he had instructed the baudi
delegates to insist as a condition that the Sheikh of Koweit shone g lve a
guarantee that no single smuggler from Koweit would be allowed to cross the
border In the event of this guarantee failing on more than three occasions to
prove effective, the Saudi Government would terminate any agreement reached.
This guarantee the Koweit delegates had naturally been unable to give. They
had however, promised to give instead an undertaking on Koweit s honour that
Koweit would do her best to stop smuggling. At this stage the Saudi delegates
had explained that they had no authority to go beyond the King s orders. They
had consequently closed down the negotiations and returned to JNejd.
[456 e-
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The volume concerns the definition of the eastern boundary of Saudi Arabia with Qatar and Trucial Oman A name used by Britain from the nineteenth century to 1971 to refer to the present-day United Arab Emirates. , and negotiations over the boundary between British officials and Ibn Saud (also referred to as Bin Saud) [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, King of Saudi Arabia].

The principal correspondents are the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ; the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain; HM Minister, Jedda [Jeddah] (Sir Andrew Ryan), later the Chargé d'Affaires, Jeddah (Andrew Spencer Calvert); and senior officials of the Foreign Office, the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Government of India, and the Colonial Office.

The papers cover: Anglo-Saudi negotiations over basing the frontier on the Blue Line [a line drawn by British and Turkish officials in 1913 from the Gulf of Uqair to parallel 20 degrees North, in the Rub al-Khali], and its extension on the side of Aden, the Violet Line; British proposals to base the frontier on a new line, the Green Line; further papers concerning the eastern, south, and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia; the effect of the proposed boundaries on the sheikhdom of Abu Dhabi; Foreign Office records of discussions between HM Minister, Jedda (Ryan) and the Deputy Saudi Arabian Minister for Foreign Affairs (Fuad Bey Hamza [Fu’ād Ḥamzah]), June-July 1935 (folios 85-102); papers concerning territorial claims of Ibn Saud in eastern and south-eastern Arabia, July 1935 (folios 103-108); investigations into tribal matters (e.g. folio 117); geological surveys and the likely presence of oil in the area (passim); the Qatar boundary (especially folios 136-173); the Qatar oil concession, September 1935 (folios 174-178); and papers concerning an air reconnaissance by British officials, with the assistance of the Royal Air Force (RAF), in order to determine certain key points on the proposed border in the area south of Qatar, October 1935 (folios 196-223).

The Arabic language content of the papers consists of fewer than ten folios, mainly copies of correspondence between Ibn Saud and the Ruler of Qatar [Shaikh ‘Abdullāh bin Jāsim Āl Thānī].

The date range gives the covering dates for the main items of correspondence; the earliest dated document is an enclosure to the first item of correspondence, dated 22 February 1935, and the last dated addition to the file is an entry in the notes on folio 229 dated 22 October [1935].

Extent and format
1 volume (232 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are arranged in chronological order from the front to the back of the file, except where enclosures of an earlier date are filed after their relevant covering letter, and terminate in a set of notes (folios 224-229). Serial numbers in red and blue crayon, in the form 'SNo:', followed by the number, refer to entries in the notes.

Physical characteristics

Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 234; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is also present in parallel between ff 6-229; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled, and are located in same position as the main sequence.

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English and Arabic in Latin and Arabic script
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