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File 2182/1913 Pt 11 'Arabia: relations with BIN SAUD Hedjaz-Nejd Dispute' [‎355r] (264/678)

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The record is made up of 1 item (336 folios). It was created in 16 Oct 1919-28 May 1920. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.


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(3) He says he is quite sure that Egypt’s Councils are
heard in London and those of Mesopotamia and India
are not.
The above are, he says, the rewards of his obeying the
wishes of His Majesty's Government and keeping quiet, and
asking Baghdad to fight his battles* The policy of shouting
i *
Ifrom the housetops and self advertisement// is obviously the
pbest (his words), Ahmed bin Thanaiyan regaled the Imam with
many stories, a few of his ideas are worth repeating* He was
full of Mr. Montagu's greatness and his love for Moslem. He
had everything bad to say of Lord Curzon* Major Young,D.S.O.
who acted as interpreter was without tact, was rude and
prejudiced in favour of the Shareef* He (bin Thanaiyan) asked
for Philby to interpret, but was rudly refused, and Major
Young was introduced instead, the moment that officer opened
his mouth and spoke of the Shareef as " Saiyidina " he at once
sized him up, he said* The above is the type of news that Bin
Baud simply drank in* Today he reminds me of Saul in his rage
|I wonder who the David will be -
' Preparation pre departure* Have given many presents to
Bin Saud's men, and to those of Bin Jiluvi* I am leaving
tomorrow. In private Majlis Bin Saud said to me "Why won't
you English understand the situation. Why won't you realise
facts? Don't you know that Shareef is an absolute traitor?
and is also loathed by all moelems. You are supporting a
broken pillar. On contrary I am desired everwhere* Hajez and
Syria are mine for the asking. The inhabitants of these places
have begged me come and rule over them. As sure as I hold this
stick (he suited action to the word) so sure do I know 1 h e
Shareef's days are numbered* I have only to go to Taif and
he would be murdered. I would never actually attack Mecca
itself, there would be no need to comit such a sacrilege. J Q. 1 , 1
Mecca is behind me already.
Today my servants all received various forms of presents

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Part 11 concerns British policy regarding the dispute between Bin Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, also referred to in the correspondence as Ibn Saud] and King Hussein of Hejaz [Ḥusayn bin ‘Alī al-Hāshimī, King of Hejaz] over Khurma and Tarabah [Turabah]. Much of the correspondence documents the efforts of the British to persuade the two leaders to agree to meet. It is initially proposed that the two should meet at Jeddah; however, it is reported by the Civil Commissioner, Baghdad, that Bin Saud refuses to meet King Hussein at Jeddah, Aden, or Cairo, and suggests a meeting at Baghdad instead. A number of other possibilities are discussed, including the following: the Secretary of State for India's proposal of a meeting of plenipotentiaries, either at Khurma or Tarabah, as an alternative to a meeting between the two leaders themselves; a suggestion by the High Commissioner, Egypt, that the two leaders meet in London; a proposal from Lord Curzon [George Nathaniel Curzon], Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, that Bin Saud should be induced to meet King Hussein on board a British ship at Jeddah, or, as is later suggested, at Aden.

Also included are the following:

  • an account from Captain Norman Napier Evelyn Bray, political officer in charge of the Nejd Mission, which recounts the last days of the mission's stay in Paris, in late December 1919;
  • a report from the High Commissioner, Egypt, on his recent meeting with King Hussein, which relays the latter's views on the allocation of control of Syria to France;
  • discussion regarding the growing power and influence of Bin Saud's Akhwan [Ikhwan] forces;
  • a note on the dispute by Harry St John Bridger, in which he volunteers to induce Bin Saud to agree to a meeting at any place (outside of Hejaz) suggested by His Majesty's Government;
  • memoranda and diary entries written by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Bahrain, Major Harold Richard Patrick Dickson, all of which discuss at length Dickson's interviews with Bin Saud at Hasa [Al Hasa] in January and February 1920;
  • extracts from a report by the British Agent, Jeddah, Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Edwin Vickery, which recounts his recent interviews with King Hussein and the King's son, Emir Abdullah [ʿAbdullāh bin Ḥusayn al-Hāshimī].

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