File 2182/1913 Pt 11 'Arabia: relations with BIN SAUD Hedjaz-Nejd Dispute' [557r] (671/678)
The record is made up of 1 item (336 folios). It was created in 16 Oct 1919-28 May 1920. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Ahmad asked me to translate the Note on their Interview at the
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Foreign Office and I found that he had remembered the whole inter-
-view practically word for word,
I also spoke very plainly to him about the militant nature of the
Ikhwan movement and told him that from my own personal knowlege
this accounted for general hostility*
That I was constantly Informed from various quarters that the
Ikhwan were constantly forcing conversions under penalty of death
He became rather excited and said w It is untrue absolutely ^untrue
such Is not> the object of our religion”
I then asked ,lf such were indeed the case ,lf they were prepared
| to embody the undertaking that no such forced conversions would
be indulged In,In any future agreements they might wish to make.
He replied ” certainly we are prepared to, 1 * We are always being
misrepresented and our alms are not understood M
\0n another occasion he stated that in the treaty between Bln Baud
and Great Britain the latter promised protection against outside
agression,
I replied that I had not seen the treaty in question and was
entirely Ignorant of its contents but that I felt certain that
no such protection was promised in a case like the present where
the quarrel was between two Arab rulers both of whom were friends
of the British Government.
He said " No’ the meaning Is clear ,,,, protection from attack from
whatsoever quarter "
I again and again impressed upon him bis duty to look on the
situation from a wide aspect and not only from a local standpoint
and insular narrow mindedness.
Without being over optimistic I thought,especially by his fare-
-well remarks to me,that this wider view-point had taken a place
In his mental aspect of the situation.
( December 25th.) on returning to our Hotel at 9.30 p.ra, we were
Shown a card of the Emir Feisal,left by two of bis Staff.
The Mission showed the greatest excitement at this un-oxpected
courtesy I went therefore with Ahmad to his private room and told
him that the call must be returned.
He refused absolutely to let Sheikh Feisal go in person saying
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Part 11 concerns British policy regarding the dispute between Bin Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd, also referred to in the correspondence as Ibn Saud] and King Hussein of Hejaz [Ḥusayn bin ‘Alī al-Hāshimī, King of Hejaz] over Khurma and Tarabah [Turabah]. Much of the correspondence documents the efforts of the British to persuade the two leaders to agree to meet. It is initially proposed that the two should meet at Jeddah; however, it is reported by the Civil Commissioner, Baghdad, that Bin Saud refuses to meet King Hussein at Jeddah, Aden, or Cairo, and suggests a meeting at Baghdad instead. A number of other possibilities are discussed, including the following: the Secretary of State for India's proposal of a meeting of plenipotentiaries, either at Khurma or Tarabah, as an alternative to a meeting between the two leaders themselves; a suggestion by the High Commissioner, Egypt, that the two leaders meet in London; a proposal from Lord Curzon [George Nathaniel Curzon], Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, that Bin Saud should be induced to meet King Hussein on board a British ship at Jeddah, or, as is later suggested, at Aden.
Also included are the following:
- an account from Captain Norman Napier Evelyn Bray, political officer in charge of the Nejd Mission, which recounts the last days of the mission's stay in Paris, in late December 1919;
- a report from the High Commissioner, Egypt, on his recent meeting with King Hussein, which relays the latter's views on the allocation of control of Syria to France;
- discussion regarding the growing power and influence of Bin Saud's Akhwan [Ikhwan] forces;
- a note on the dispute by Harry St John Bridger, in which he volunteers to induce Bin Saud to agree to a meeting at any place (outside of Hejaz) suggested by His Majesty's Government;
- memoranda and diary entries written by the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. at Bahrain, Major Harold Richard Patrick Dickson, all of which discuss at length Dickson's interviews with Bin Saud at Hasa [Al Hasa] in January and February 1920;
- extracts from a report by the British Agent, Jeddah, Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Edwin Vickery, which recounts his recent interviews with King Hussein and the King's son, Emir Abdullah [ʿAbdullāh bin Ḥusayn al-Hāshimī].
The item features the following principal correspondents:
- Secretary to the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. 's Political Department (John Evelyn Shuckburgh);
- Civil Commissioner, Baghdad [held in an officiating capacity by Lieutenant-Colonel Arnold Talbot Wilson];
- High Commissioner, Egypt (Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby);
- Secretary of State for India [Edwin Samuel Montagu];
- Foreign Office;
- British Agent, Jeddah (Lieutenant-Colonel Charles Edwin Vickery);
- Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Major Harold Richard Patrick Dickson);
- Bin Saud;
- Admiralty;
- Viceroy of India [Frederic John Napier Thesiger].
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