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File 2182/1913 Pt 8 'Arabia – Policy towards Bin Saud' [279v] (143/602)
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* Enclosure No. 2.
Enclosure Ao. 4.
Telegram, No. 5084, dated (and received) the 8th September 1918.
From—Political, Basrah,
To—Political, Baghdad.
Reference Koweit, 1371.* Shaikh Ibrahim has been in here to-day and
has given some interesting information.
He had already heard of this proposal of
Ibn Sand’s and had mentioned it to Lieutenant Roberts. I therefore had no
scruple in discussing it with him without, however, disclosing Philby’s message.
Ibrahim is strongly opposed to proposal. He says Ibn Saud’s sole object is to get
a finger in Zubair tribal fire. Once he has done so, his agent will either have
to be master in Zubair or if his advice be disregarded he will cause constant
irritation by his complaints. Ibrahim ascribes whole move to an intrigue
against himself on part of Bait Mandil. Abdul Wahab has been spending
some time at his Zubair house recently.
Suggests that we might reply to Philby’s proposal that not worth Ibn
Saud’s while keep agent, Zubair, where important political questions are not
decided that Ibn Saud already has agent, Basrah, whom if he choses to replace
by another man we have no objection. Basrah and Zubair being now connect
ed by rail are practically one place and Basrah in all respects more convenient.
Ibn Saud might be left raise for himself question of appointing representative
at Baghdad if he so desires.
Ibrahim further discussed hostage question. According to him demand
will never be accepted by Ajman or Shammar and was only put forward by
ibn Saud to make us drive them into Ibn Rashid’s arms and so give him an
excuse for not attacking latter.
Ibrahim’s latest news from Hail is that supplies there are very short and
there is a growing movement to urge Ibn Rashid to come to terms with us.
Rashid Ibn Laila still in Damascus whence Turks will not let him start.
Lively correspondence now going on between Ibn Rashid and Ibn Saud
by hand of Ibn Rimal of Sinjara Shammar.
Enclosure No. 5.
Telegram R., No. 7511, dated the 9th September 1918.
From—Political, Baghdad,
To—Philby, c/o Political, Koweit (repeated to Basrah).
Your M.-179.t I am unable to concur in proposed permanent residence
. „ , XT _ at Zubair of an agent of Ibu Saud. It
f Enclosure No. 2. ... ... ^ ° , ,.
will constitute an additional complica
tion of an already difficult situation and be an additional source of irritation.
Suggest you inform Bin Saud it is not worth his while to have an agent at
Zuoair where important political questions are not decided, That he already
has agent at Basrah whom he can replace if he likes. Basrah and Zubair are
connected by rail and former in all respects more convenient.
109
No. 19092—9-2, dated Baghdad, the 12th (received 30th) September 1918.
From— Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel A. T. Wilson, C.M.G., C.I.E., D.S.O.,
Officiating Civil Commissioner, Baghdad,
To—The Secretary to the Government of India in the Foreign and Political
Department, Simla.
In continuation of my letterj No. 18910, September 10th, I have the honour
t Semi No. 108 . to forward, for the information of the Gov-
m.-iss, August isth. ernment of India, copy of the marginally
noted letter received from Mr. H. St. J. Philby, C.I.E., on special duty in
Central Arabia.
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Part 8 primarily concerns relations between Bin Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and King Hussein of Hedjaz [Ḥusayn bin ‘Alī al-Hāshimī, King of Hejaz]. Included are the following:
- discussion as to which ruler has the stronger claim to Khurma, and whether Bin Saud should be encouraged to begin hostilities against Bin Rashid [Saʿūd bin ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz Āl Rashīd, Emir of Ha'il], as a way of diverting the former's attention from other matters;
- copies of a treaty between the British government and Bin Saud, which was signed on 26 December 1915 and ratified on 18 July 1916;
- debate about whether the British should supply Bin Saud with more arms and ammunition (to make amends for providing him with 1000 cheap Winchester rifles);
- discussion of the possible benefits of arranging a meeting either between King Hussein and Bin Saud or between the former's son and the latter's brother;
- discussion about the possibility of an officer from the Egyptian service succeeding Harry St John Bridger Philby as the British representative to Bin Saud;
- reports of Bin Saud having begun operations against Bin Rashid, and discussion as to how the British should respond;
- speculation on King Hussein's actions in Khurma and the implications for Britain's policy in the region;
- a copy of a memorandum from the Foreign Office's Political Intelligence Department, entitled 'Memorandum on British Commitments to Bin Saud';
- reports of an Ikhwan force advancing towards Mecca, and discussion as to how the British should respond.
This item features the following principal correspondents:
- High Commissioner, Egypt (General Sir Francis Reginald Wingate);
- Secretary to the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. 's Political Department (John Evelyn Shuckburgh);
- Captain Arnold Talbot Wilson [based in Baghdad and acting both as Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. , and as Civil Commissioner, following Lieutenant-Colonel Sir Percy Zachariah Cox's transfer to Persia];
- War Office;
- Foreign Office;
- Viceroy of India [Frederic John Napier Thesiger];
- Secretary of State for India [Edwin Samuel Montagu];
- General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Mesopotamia [William Raine Marshall];
- Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. , Baghdad;
- Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Koweit [Kuwait] (Percy Gordon Loch);
- Harry St John Bridger Philby;
- Bin Saud.
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