Coll 5/1 ‘Persian Gulf Air Routes: Hasa Coast & Flying over Nejd territory — Saudi regulations for the landing of foreign aircraft’ [38r] (75/564)
The record is made up of 1 file (281 folios). It was created in 11 Feb 1931-3 Mar 1937. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.
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THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY’S GOVERNMENT
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Record of the Second Part of the Second Meeting with Fuad Bey Hamza, held
at the Foreign Office on June 25, 1935.
[Note. —The first part of this meeting, which is recorded separately, was taken
up by resumed discussion of the question of the eastern and south-eastern
frontiers of Saudi Arabia.]
THE second part of the meeting was devoted to explanation and discussion
of certain facilities desired by the Air Ministry on the Hasa coast of Saudi
Arabia. The following were present:—
Sir A. Ryan.
Fuad Bey Hamza (Saudi Deputy
Minister for Foreign Affairs).
Sheikh Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister
Mr. RENDEL recalled that the question of facilities for British aircraft
on passage between Koweit and Bahrein on the Hasa coast had formed the subject
of negotiations with the Saudi Government on previous occasions. It had not
been possible, however, to reach agreement in the matter, and he thought this was
primarily due to the nervousness of the Saudi Government lest the extensive
facilities desired at that time might amount to foreign interference in the internal
affairs of the Saudi Arabian Kingdom. Moreover, it had not been possible to
reach agreement on the financial aspect. However, recent improvements in the
range and reliability of aircraft had now greatly reduced the risk of forced
landings on Saudi territory. This had enabled the Air Ministry to reduce very
considerably their original list of desiderata, which in their present form could
not possibly be held to constitute interference in Saudi affairs and would involve
the Saudi Government in no expenditure.
Mr. Rendel then explained to Fuad Bey in detail the present requirements
of the Air Ministry, as set out in the Air Ministry letter of the 20th February
to the Foreign Office, as revised at the inter-departmental meeting held at the
Foreign Office on the 24th June.
FUAD BEY replied that King Abdul Aziz had already shown his desire
to help progress in aviation in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. . At the same time Saudi Arabia
was not yet in a position to profit by reciprocity in such matters, and so King
Abdul Aziz could not be expected to incur any expense in providing air facilities
for other countries. But he could say that the Saudi Government would not have
any objection in principle to granting the facilities mentioned by Mr. Rendel,
subject to the following conditions :—
(a) The sovereign rights of King Abdul Aziz and his successors would have
to be respected and the facilities should be given in such a way as to
avoid any appearance of foreign interference in the affairs of Saudi
(h) A guarantee should be given that facilities would not be used in the
future so as to infringe Saudi sovereign rights.
(c) The Saudi Government should not be put to expense of any sort through
the grant of the facilities.
(d) The question of the facilities required for the Royal Air Force should
be kept distinct from that of those required for the aircraft of British
civil air services, and the two sets of facilities should be dealt with
Fuad Bey added that, while facilities for the Royal Air force could be
granted by means of a diplomatic exchange of notes, the Saudi Government would
prefer to negotiate direct with Imperial Airways (Limited) in regard to facilities
for their aircraft.
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The file contains correspondence and papers related to negotiations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia for the establishment of emergency landing grounds along the Hasa Coast, and proposed arrangements for their maintenance. The intention was that these facilities would be used by aircraft of the Royal Air Force (RAF) or Imperial Airways in the event of an emergency. It further covers measures to be taken to prevent the intrusion of British aircraft into Saudi territory during the progress of negotiations.
Also briefly covered in the file is a visit by Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] to the Netherlands in 1935 (see folios 26-71) and the attitude of the Saudis to foreign aircraft flying over their territory (see folios 3-21).
The main correspondents are as follows: HM Minister at Jeddah (Sir Andrew Ryan), officials of the Foreign Office (mainly George William Rendel), and officials of the Air Ministry (mainly James Stirling Ross). The negotiations are primarily undertaken through Fuad Bey Hamza and Shaikh Yusuf Yasin.
Prior to 1932, Saudi Arabia was known as the Kingdoms of Hejaz and Nejd, and this is reflected in the file.
The file includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: The foliation sequence commences at the front cover with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 282; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. Bookmarks are present on the verso The back of a paper sheet or leaf. side of f 41 and f 272; these have been labelled with an ‘a’.
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