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Coll 6/70 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with Germany (Dr Grobba)' [‎3r] (5/179)

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The record is made up of 1 file (88 folios). It was created in 30 Nov 1928-8 Dec 1941. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.


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15th November, 1941.
D. 2.00 p.m. 14th November, 1941.
R e 2.55 a.m. 14th November, 1941.
Please repeat saving to Spears, Jerusalem and Bagdad,
Following for Minister of State.
Your telegram No. 95.
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I^entirely agree that it is unthinkable that Ibn
Saud should sponsor or even tolerate a political gathering
of this nature. Not only is it his inflexible rule that
pilgrimage shall not be made dn occasion for political
discussions but his every act and word show that he would
not tolerate any furtherance of German interests.
2. It is of course possible that persons mentioned
may lunch with the pilgrims, perhaps even as Ibn Saud’s
guests but it could not be inferred from this that he agreed
with their views or would allow them to indulge in undesirable
5. Since I received Middle East Intelligence C e ntre
telegram No. 97 29 of October 51st on the same subject, I
have been on the^look-out for local rumour which might
afford confirmation and the fact that I have heard nothing
in a country where there is no secrecy is indication that
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This file concerns relations between the Kingdom of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia) and Germany. The material in the file dates from two periods: 1928-30 and 1939-41. Notable correspondents include the following: the British Agent at Jeddah (Herbert George Jakins); the High Commissioner, Egypt (George Ambrose Lloyd, Lord Lloyd); His Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires to Jedda (Cecil Gervase Hope Gill); His Majesty's Ambassador in Cairo (Miles Wedderburn Lampson); His Majesty's Ambassador in Bagdad [Baghdad] (Sir Basil Cochrane Newton); His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, and later, Hugh Stonehewer Bird); the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Anthony Eden); officials of the Foreign Office.

The correspondence includes discussion of the following:

  • The conclusion of a treaty of friendship between Germany and the Kingdom of the Hejaz and Nejd in April 1929.
  • The appointment of a German Consul in the Hejaz in 1931.
  • Anglo-Yemeni relations.
  • Reports in 1940 that Mussolini has been approached by Hitler with a request that the Italian Government should ask Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] to allow German diplomatic representative Dr Fritz Konrad Ferdinand Grobba to take residence Jedda.
  • Whether Ibn Saud should be urged by the British to refuse to receive Dr Grobba.
  • Italy's request for Saudi diplomatic representation in Rome.
  • Ibn Saud's requests for financial assistance from the British Government.
  • The reported arrival of eight German officers (in civilian disguise) in Iran, in late 1940.
  • Reports in 1940 of wireless communication between Riyadh and Germany.
  • Reports in November 1941 of pro-German Arabs having attempted to persuade Ibn Saud to call for an Arab congress to be held in Mecca or Medina during the pilgrimage.

In addition to correspondence the file includes a copy of an English translation of the aforementioned treaty.

The file includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence (folio 2).

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1 file (88 folios)

The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.

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