'Report and Proceedings of a Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence on the Baghdad Railway, Southern Persia, and the Persian Gulf' [14v] (33/332)
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12
First Meeting, 2nd March, 1908.
* Appendix 2.
Mr. Morley : Is it not a question of arrangement with the local Sheikh, very
largely ? If you bind him over, I do not see how any one else can protest.
51. Sir E. Grey : A Protectorate is not quite that. The question of a Pro
tectorate is rather a question of exercising jurisdiction over other foreigners in
Bahrein. Does the Sheikh attempt to exercise jurisdiction over them himself now?
Sir R. Ritchie : Y es. The Government of India say there is a Court composed
of a representative of the Sheikh and the
Political Agent
A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency.
, which exercises jurisdiction
over foreigners.
52. Sir E. Grey : But not over British ?
Sir R. Ritchie : l T es, over British. But we have not got an
Order in Council
A regulation issued by the sovereign of the United Kingdom on the advice of the Privy Council.
.
53. Sir E. Grey : The British
Political Agent
A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency.
?
Sir R. Ritchie : There is no other
Political Agent
A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency.
, and he may not receive
another
Political Agent
A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency.
.
Sir E. Grey : He is bound not to permit other Powers to establish Diplomatic
or Consular Agencies without our consent. That is a real Treaty right we have
with him. You will find that on p. 145.° In 1880, by Treaty, published for
public in formation—so that Treaty is public—the Sheikh bound himself to abstain
from making any Treaty of any sort with any State or Government other than the
British. That, you know, is a virtual Protectorate.
54. Lord Esher : You see, on p. 146,* the British Agent has exercised
important judicial powers in the island. What does that mean ?
Sir R. Ritchie : Powers given him by the Sheikh.
55. Lord Esher : Does that mean over foreigners ?
Sir R. Ritchie : Yes. In the Sheikh’s Court, under the control of the Political
Agent.
Mr. Morley : The President of the Board of Trade has asked about the increase
in the trade. I have had some figures handed to me. The total exports of Bahrein in
1902 came to 736,000b ; in 1903 to 8 ^5,000b ; in 1904 to 901,000b ; and in 1905 to
1,363,000b ; so that it was almost doubled. Then the imports in 1902 were 888,000b ;
in 1903 1,027,000b ; in 1904 992,000b ; and in 1905 1,620,000b ; so that the imports
were doubled.
Mr. Lloyd-George : Those are very important figures, I think.
Sir C. Ottley : Those figures are taken from the Consular Reports.
Mr. Lloyd-George : It is evidently a very important station from a commercial
point of view, as it is growing in importance.
Mr. Morley : Certainly.
56. Sir E. Grey : The point is, Have we got a case for establishing jurisdiction
over foreigners ?
Sir C. PIardinge : I think we have.
Sir R. Ritchie : In the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
the
Order in Council
A regulation issued by the sovereign of the United Kingdom on the advice of the Privy Council.
runs : “ Whereas His
Majesty, by Treaty, usage,” and so forth, has jurisdiction over British subjects; and it
adds, over foreigners in cases where there are Agreements to that effect with the
foreign Governments concerned.
57. Sir E. Grey : We have got no Agreement with them about Bahrein, have we ?
Sir R. Ritchie : No. If we extend it by
Order in Council
A regulation issued by the sovereign of the United Kingdom on the advice of the Privy Council.
to foreigners in
Bahrein, one practical difficulty is, How will you word your Order ?
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The volume contains the following minutes and proceedings:
- First Meeting, 2 March 1908. Evidence of Sir Richmond Thackeray Willoughby Ritchie.
- Second Meeting, 6 March 1908. Evidence of Sir J Mackay.
- Third Meeting, 11 March 1908. Evidence of Mr Frank Clark Strick and Mr E Lloyd.
- Fourth Meeting, 17 March 1908. Evidence of Sir Louis William Dane.
- Fifth Meeting, 19 March 1908. Evidence of Mr P Thomas and Mr G Lloyd.
- Sixth Meeting, 25 March 1908. Evidence of Mr Henry Finnis Blosse Lynch, and Major J A Douglas.
- Seventh Meeting, 30 March 1908. Evidence of Sir William Lee-Warner, and Colonel Charles Edward Yate.
- Digest of Evidence in Order of Witnesses.
- Digest of Evidence by Subjects.
Appendices:
- Appendix 1. Terms of Reference.
- Appendix 2. Memorandum respecting British Interests in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Foreign Office, Confidential (9161).
- Appendix 3. Supplementary Memorandum respecting British Interests in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Foreign Office, Confidential (9404).
- Appendix 4. Lights and Buoys required at Ports in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Statement by the Director of Naval Intelligence.
- Appendix 5. The Provision of Wireless Telegraph Stations in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Statement by the Director of Naval Intelligence.
- Appendix 6. The Cost of the Proposed Lighthouses at Ras Musandim.
- Appendix 7. Trade and Shipping in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Memorandum by the Director of Naval Intelligence.
- Appendix 8. Memorandum on the Position of British Trade in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Prepared in the Board of Trade.
- Appendix 9. Memorandum by Mr H F B Lynch, MP.
- Appendix 10. The Nushi-Seistan Railway Project. The Bunder-Dilam-Shiraz Railway Project. Extracts from a report by Lieutenant L E Hopkins.
- Appendix 11. Memorandum handed to M Isvolsky, 14 October 1908.
- Appendix 12. British and German Shipping in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Memorandum prepared in the Board of Trade.
Maps:
- Folio 76. Sketch to illustrate positions of Flagstaffs at Elphinstone Inlet and Sheep Island (Musandim Peninsula).
- Folio 87. Sketches of Approaches to Kuweit Harbour and Shatt Al Arab, compiled from various authorities.
- Folio 118v. Map of Mohammerah and district prepared in 1850. Shows the proposed Turkish, Persian and mediating Commissioners' lines.
- Folio 152. Sketch Maps to Shew Railways in Asia Minor.
- Folio 153. Map showing the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. and adjacent countries.
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- 1 volume (162 folios)
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A table of contents can be found at folio 4. An index to the minutes of evidence and appendices can be found at folios 154-162.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 164; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. Pagination: the volume also contains an original printed pagination sequence (xi, 297pp, 5 maps).
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