Coll 6/66 'Saudi-Arabia: Saudi-Transjordan Frontier' [98r] (195/427)
The record is made up of 1 file (212 folios). It was created in 3 Apr 1934-6 Mar 1940. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.
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THE SUB-COMMITTEE had under consideration the following
Copy of letter from the Colonial Office, forwarding
record of Interdepartmental meeting held on 7th
January, 1935, to the Foreign Office, War Office,
and Air Ministry, and replies thereto.
(Papers Nos. M.E.(O) 171, 172, 173 and 174.)
Copies of telegrams from the High Commissioner for
Transjordan to the Colonial Office.
(Papers Nos. M.E.(O) 175 and 176.)
Copies of telegrams between the Foreign Office and
Sir Andrew Ryan (His Majesty’s Minister at Jedda).
(Papers Nos. M.E.(O) 177 and 179.)
THE CHAIRMAN said that the views expressed in Sir Andrew
Ryan’s telegram dated 6 th March placed a different aspect
on the problem. Although the High Commissioner for
Transjordan was averse to opening up negotiations, Sir Andrew
Ryan was quite definite that a general discussion on the
Transjordan-Nejd frontiers could not now be avoided. We
should now have to decide whether or not it was necessary
to take up the general question of the re-definition of the
Trans jordan-Nejd boundaries, from Points A to E, with the
Saudi Government. Before making this decision he would
like to be assured that in the view of the Foreign Office
and their legal advisers we should have a sound case to
argue on the basis of the intentions of the negotiators of
the Hadda Agreement, the 1918 map having been proved to be
MR. RENDEL pointed out that the Foreign Office felt
satisfied that we could base a strong case on the intentions
of the negotiators of the Hadda Agreement regarding the
frontier laid down in the 1918 map. He would like, however,
to put in a caveat, which might be important from the Air
Ministry point of view, about the Transjordan car track.
Although there appeared to be a strong case to include the whole
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This file primarily concerns British policy on the question of the Saudi-Transjordan frontier, specifically the frontier between Transjordan and Nejd, as initially outlined in the Hadda Agreement of 1925.
The correspondence includes discussion of the following:
- The reported disaffection of certain Saudi tribes in the Jauf [Al Jawf] and Teima [Taymā’] areas.
- Difficulties arising from inaccuracies discovered on a 1918 map of the frontier, on which the Hadda agreement was based.
- Saudi Government complaints regarding the alleged violation of the Saudi frontier by British aeroplanes and soldiers at Thaniyya Taraif [Thanīyat Ţurayf, Saudi Arabia].
- A proposal made by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Saudi Foreign Affairs, during a meeting at the Foreign Office in July 1935, that the frontier should be that which is shown on the 1918 map, regardless of the map's inaccuracies (a proposal that the British authorities in Transjordan encourage the Foreign Office to accept).
- Reports of infringements of the existing frontier by Saudi patrols.
- The British response to Ibn Saud's [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] claim to the districts of Akaba [Aqaba] and Maan [Ma‘ān] in Transjordan.
The file also includes the following:
- Compiled notes of correspondence relating to the Treaty of Jedda (1927) and its modification (and more specifically, to the question of the Hejaz-Transjordan frontier) exchanged between Sir Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (1927), and between the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs and the Minister for Saudi Foreign Affairs (1936).
- Copies of the minutes of meetings of the Committee of Imperial Defence's Standing Official Sub-Committee for Questions Concerning the Middle East, concerning the Saudi-Transjordan frontier (and, in one instance, also addressing the Island of Tamb in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. ).
- Copies of the minutes of interdepartmental meetings regarding the Saudi-Transjordan frontier, held at the Colonial Office (7 January 1935) and Foreign Office (28 September 1934) respectively.
- Two sketch maps depicting disputed territory near the frontier.
The file features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, succeeded by Sir Reader William Bullard); His Majesty's Chargé d'Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert); John Bagot Glubb, Acting Officer Commanding the Arab Legion; the Air Officer Commanding Palestine and Transjordan (Richard Edmund Charles Peirse); the Saudi Minister of Foreign Affairs [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd]; officials of the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, the Air Ministry, and the War Office.
The file includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence (folio 2).
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- 1 file (212 folios)
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 213; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-209; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
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