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'Report and Proceedings of the Standing Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence on the Persian Gulf' [7r] (18/94)
The record is made up of 1 volume (43 folios). It was created in Nov 1911. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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did come. At that time we thought Koweit was the only possible outlet. Now the
river had changed, and we had got to make up our minds which way we wanted the
matter settled now.
SIR ARTHUR WILSON favoured Basra, but if the navigation was under Turkish
control it would be a drawback. It was important for us to have control of the
navigation over the bar if possible without the Germans having any share in it.
SIR EDWARD GREY said that if we could get control of the railway from
Baghdad to Basra we could easily bring in this question. If not, we could raise it
with regard to the Emits of Turkish sovereignty. There was no difficulty in doing so
now that the Turks had interfered with our buoys.
We must also come to a settlement as to Koweit. We might recognise Turkish
suzerainty if Turkey in return would accept the status quo, that is, the autonomy
of the Sheikh and the validity of our engagements with him. It was impossible for
us to go back on our engagements. The loss of prestige would react all through the
Gulf, and wmuld be very serious.
MR. PARKER said that our engagements with the Sheikh of Koweit were that he British
should not only not cede any territory, but that he should receive no foreign repre- engage-
sentatives without British sanction. In return he w r as promised the good offices of the
British Government. 0 f Koweit.
SIR EDAVARD GREY said that as part of a settlement we might perhaps
recognise the Turkish title of Kaimakam and convert our Resident into a consul.
LORD KITCHENER, referring to conclusion (r) arrived at at the Conference on Fortifica-
the MOth March, namely, that “no fortified base or naval arsenal shall ever be created
on the shores of the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
,” thought that this provision was rather wide. t ] le p ersian
Gulf.
SIR EDAYARD GREY was confident that no one except Turkejr could possibly
want to, but he agreed that it was rather sweeping and might possibly tie our own
hands at the mouth of the Gulf some day. The condition might be modified to read
“in Turkish territory, so long as no other Power created one.”
SIR ARTHUR AVILSON said that it was important that no fortifications should
be erected on the waterway below Basra.
SIR EDWARD GREY said that as regards (s )—“ (s.) The southernmost limit, in Limits of
a southerly direction, of Turkish jurisdiction on the littoral of the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
is Turkish
Ujeir, in the district of El Katif. The Ottoman Government shall renounce all claim soverei g nt y-
to the supremacy over any point on the littoral of the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
south of that point,
or to the island of Bahrein, Moharrog, Zakhnuniyeh, or adjacent islands ”—he was
anxious to give Turkey all that we reasonably could ; so far we had not got much on
our side which we were willing to concede, except the Customs increase.
MR. PARKER said that the Turks had long had a military post on the El Katr
peninsula at El Bidaa, but we had never recognised their right to be there. One
difficulty in ceding El Katr to Turkey was that the Sheikh of Bahrein had grazing
rights on the peninsula. In any case we could not allow the Turks into the territory
of the Trucial Chiefs, which reached as far north as Khor-el-Odeid.
MR. FERARD said that as regards El Katr there would also be difficulties as
regards the pearl fisheries and the arms traffic.
SIR EDAALVRD GREY said that we could put forward (s) as it stood, and perhaps
concede more as regards the El Katr peninsula, making stipulations as to the grazing
and pearling rights and as to the arms traffic. The outlook in Turkey was very
obscure, but the reply to the communication of the Turkish Government had been a
good deal delayed, and it was desirable that it might be presented about AA 7 hitsuntide.
ile thought, therefore, that it would be convenient if the Sub-Committee met again on
Tuesday, the 30th May, at S'SO'p.m., when Lord Morley could be present.
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The report was printed for the Committee of Imperial Defence, November 1911, and approved on 14 December 1911. It concerns the situation in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. regarding the extent to which Turkish claims aligned with British interests, and engagements already made with the Sheikh of Koweit [Kuwait] and other chiefs.
It includes the following:
- Report - The Standing Sub-Committee advise on the terminus of the Baghdad Railway, control of the navigation of the Shat-Al-Arab [Shatt al Arab], and the limits of Turkish sovereignty in the Shat-Al-Arab and on the shores of the Gulf.
- Proceedings - minutes of the First Meeting, 24 May 1911; and minutes of the Second Meeting, 15 June 1911.
The following appendices are also contained in the report:
I. Memorandum on Turkish aggression in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. , by the Foreign Office.
II. Memorandum on local action in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. , by the General Staff, War Office.
III. Letter on the Shat-Al-Arab and Koweit, from the Naval Commander-in-chief, East Indies, to the Government of India.
IV. Report of the Inter-Departmental Conference on the Baghdad Railway terminus, by the Foreign Office, 1907.
V. Foreign Office correspondence on the frontier of Muhamrah (Mohammerah)[Khorramshahr].
VI. Memorandum on the Turco-Persian boundary question 1833-1906, by the Foreign Office.
VII. Foreign Office correspondence on the frontier of Mohammerah, 1906-1911.
Some treaty extracts and agreements are in French.
Also contains three maps:
f 25: 'MAP OF MOHAMMERAH AND DISTRICT PREPARED IN 1850'
f 43: 'Sketch of APPROACHES TO KUWEIT HARBOUR AND SHATT AL ARAB'
f 44: ' PERSIAN GULF The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. AND ADJACENT COUNTRIES'
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- 1 volume (43 folios)
- Arrangement
The file consists of a single report and three accompanying maps. A contents page at the front of the volume (ff 3-4) references the volume’s original printed pagination.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 45; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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