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'Report and Proceedings of the Standing Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence on the Persian Gulf' [‎9r] (22/94)

The record is made up of 1 volume (43 folios). It was created in Nov 1911. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.

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VISCOUNT MOKLEY; That is the opinion sent to us by Admiral Slade for
example, and I think Captain Hunt, who has just come from the Gulf, would say the
same thing, would you not ?
CAPTAIN HUNT : I think that all these Chiefs here are absolutely uncivilised,
and the whole of the Trucial Coast The historic term used by the British to refer to the Gulf coast of Trucial Oman, now called United Arab Emirates. is an open sore. It seems to me that it is time
that something definite should be settled as to who runs the coast and who has all the
responsibility for it. At the present moment the other Powers do not accept our rights
alono' that Trucial Coast The historic term used by the British to refer to the Gulf coast of Trucial Oman, now called United Arab Emirates. .
SIP EDWARD GREY : The immediate question that we have got to decide is,
I think, what we have to say to Turkey d propos of these negotiations. I assume we
should have to get Turkey, before we give consent to English customs dues, to define
her limits in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. in such a way as to exclude from her sovereignty the
Trucial Chiefs.
LORD CURZON : She has never made any claims over the Trucial Chiefs.
SIR EDWARD GREY: I do not say that she has done that yet, but she has
been pushing forward lately down towards El Katr, Zakhnuniyah, and so forth. What
we rather want to do is to get her once and for all to put her hand to limits of
sovereignty on her part in the region of the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. , which will exclude from her
sovereignty places in which we are particularly interested. We want really to know
how much we can give her. I do not think it is necessary to press her to recognise us
outside those limits, provided she defines limits beyond which she will not attempt to
assert or take sovereignty. That leaves us tree to decide. One ot the places we are
quite clear about is Bahrein, which we must have a protectorate over. Whatever
limits Turkey assigns must be subject to excluding Bahrein from her jurisdiction. We
rather want to decide what limit to the south is the extreme limit which we can
concede to her.
SIR WILLIAM NICHOLSON : Does not Turkey claim the whole of the hinter
land in this part ?
SIR EDWARD GREY : Turkey will claim anything that she is not prevented
from claiming.
SIR WILLIAM NICHOLSON : Has she not made a claim to the hinterland ?
SIR EDWARD GREY : I imagine she has.
SIR WILLIAM NICHOLSON : Then I presume we shall have to decide how far
the littoral extends. It will not do to say to her, “ You cannot go there,” if the whole
of this hinterland belongs to her.
SIR EDWARD GPtEY : The real question is where she stops on the coast. ^ The
critical point for the moment is whether we could possibly concede her sovereignty
over El Katr, or whether we must at all costs say that she stops at Ojair (Ukeir),
which excludes El Katr. Bahrein we are quite clear about; she must not meddle
with that.
VISCOUNT MORLEY : Unquestionably.
LORD CURZON : Can anybody here tell me whether Sheikh Bin Ahmed is
alive ?
MR PARKER : No ; he is dead now. I am nearly certain*
LORD CURZON : Who is the ruling Sheikh over El Katr now ?
MR PARKER : Ahmed’s successor is considered, so I gather from recenr corre
spondence, to be rather favourable to Tuikey.
I OPD CURZON • I agree with what Sir Edward Grey has said, and I think it is
very important. The point" 5 is to fix a southern limit to Turkish territory. Turkish
* He was murdered at the end of 1905.

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The report was printed for the Committee of Imperial Defence, November 1911, and approved on 14 December 1911. It concerns the situation in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. regarding the extent to which Turkish claims aligned with British interests, and engagements already made with the Sheikh of Koweit [Kuwait] and other chiefs.

It includes the following:

  • Report - The Standing Sub-Committee advise on the terminus of the Baghdad Railway, control of the navigation of the Shat-Al-Arab [Shatt al Arab], and the limits of Turkish sovereignty in the Shat-Al-Arab and on the shores of the Gulf.
  • Proceedings - minutes of the First Meeting, 24 May 1911; and minutes of the Second Meeting, 15 June 1911.

The following appendices are also contained in the report:

I. Memorandum on Turkish aggression in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. , by the Foreign Office.

II. Memorandum on local action in the Persian Gulf Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. , by the General Staff, War Office.

III. Letter on the Shat-Al-Arab and Koweit, from the Naval Commander-in-chief, East Indies, to the Government of India.

IV. Report of the Inter-Departmental Conference on the Baghdad Railway terminus, by the Foreign Office, 1907.

V. Foreign Office correspondence on the frontier of Muhamrah (Mohammerah)[Khorramshahr].

VI. Memorandum on the Turco-Persian boundary question 1833-1906, by the Foreign Office.

VII. Foreign Office correspondence on the frontier of Mohammerah, 1906-1911.

Some treaty extracts and agreements are in French.

Also contains three maps:

f 25: 'MAP OF MOHAMMERAH AND DISTRICT PREPARED IN 1850'

f 43: 'Sketch of APPROACHES TO KUWEIT HARBOUR AND SHATT AL ARAB'

f 44: ' PERSIAN GULF Historically used by the British to refer to the sea area between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Often referred to as The Gulf or the Arabian Gulf. AND ADJACENT COUNTRIES'

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1 volume (43 folios)
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The file consists of a single report and three accompanying maps. A contents page at the front of the volume (ff 3-4) references the volume’s original printed pagination.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 45; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.

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