Coll 28/51 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Treaty negotiations: Article regarding private claims.’ [10r] (19/357)
The record is made up of 1 file (176 folios). It was created in 13 Apr 1932-28 Dec 1936. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.
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little, if anything, is known, except that they exist, be
placed in the position of having to pay damages to the extent
of anything up to £900,000, the figure at which M.Atychides
places his losses, including losses of earnings; and it is
unlikely that the damages would be reduced even if His
Majesty's Government were to decline on principle to submit
the prize decision to arbitration and were to restrict the
issue before the tribunal to that of the detention of the
vessel at Bombay prior to the outbreak of war. In these
circumstances His Majesty's Government can obviously not agree
to the submission of this claim to arbitration without the
most serious consideration.
9. During the treaty negotiations referred to in paragraph
4 above, His Majesty's Government hoped to be able to secure
the exclusion of the Atychiaes claim from the scope of any
Anglo-Persian claims commission by proposing, when the time
came for a detailed discussion of the categories of claims
of which the commission should take cognisance, that all
claims arising out of events which took place during the world •*,
war should be excluded. But it must be admitted that there
was never much prospect that these tactics would have
succeeded. if in the course of the treaty negotiations the
stage had been reached of discussing the scope of the
commission with the Persian Government, thepersian Government
might well have been willing to exclude war claims in general,
since they have always maintained that they are in no way
responsible for events occurring during the occupation of
the country by foreign troops. But had they done so th§y
would certainly have wished to define the term "war claims"
in such a way as to ensure that the Atychiaes claim was not
thus excluded, and any attempt by His Majesty's Government to
insist on its exclusion on this or any other ground would
merely have ended in the abandonment of the whole idea of a
claims commission. There is no reason to anticipate that
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Correspondence and other papers relating to the drafting of an article for the Anglo-Persian Treaty, concerning private claims made against the British and Persian Governments. The correspondence concerns: the exclusion from the article of British Indian claims; an agreement by both parties to not pursue certain claims arising from the ‘exceptional circumstances obtaining during the [First] world war’ (f 155); general treaty instructions from the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , sent to the British Legation in Tehran; details of an historic claim for approximately £900,000, made against the British Government by a Persian subject named Socrates Atychides, whose ship, the Kara Deniz , was detained and declared as prize at Bombay [Mumbai] in 1914; a printed copy of a general review of British claims against Persia, prepared by Hugh Ritchie, formerly of the Foreign Office. Ritchie’s review includes indexes to supplementary volumes (not included in the file) entitled Persia (Legation Claims) , Persia: Consulate Claims (Peace-Time), and Persia: Consulate Claims (War-Time) (ff 22-51). The indexes are lists of British claimants.
Principal correspondents in the file include: John Charles Walton and John Gilbert Laithwaite of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. ; George William Rendel and Christopher Frederick Ashton Warner of the Foreign Office; W R L Trickett of HM’s Treasury.
The file contains a single paragraph of French text: a draft of the claims article submitted by the Government of Persia (f 168).
The file includes a divider, which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 178; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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