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Coll 6/67(1) 'Boundaries of South-Eastern Arabia and Qatar.' [‎251v] (507/794)

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The record is made up of 1 volume (392 folios). It was created in 13 Jun 1934-13 Dec 1934. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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16. Towards the end the King expressed his surprise on learning that the
Turks had agreed to alienate rights, which were not in their lawful disposal. He
denied all knowledge until recently of the Anglo-Turkish conventions. I said
that surely the Saudi Government had been aware of the Anglo-Turkish Con
vention of 1913, which, if I remembered rightly, was referred to specifically in
the Koweit-Nejd Boundary Convention of 1922. Both the King and
Sheikh Yussuf were positive that they had no previous knowledge of the con
ventions of 1913-14, and made the point that they were not among the treaties
communicated to Ibn Saud after the conclusion of the Treaty of Jedda.
Sheikh Yussuf recalled a reference to the old Koweit boundary in the Koweit-
Nejd Boundary Agreement of 1922, but did not think that the Anglo-Turkish
Convention as such was referred to (I subsequently verified my own recollection,
which was correct).
17. I did not feel that I could invite the King to make a further com
munication to His Majesty’s Government during my absence on leave, as
suggested in my instructions, having regard to the fact that the last official note
of the Saudi Government remains unanswered, and to the extreme vigour of the
King’s personal reaction. I promised to report all that he had said. The
audience ended at 5-30 p.m.
18. Shortly after 6 Sheikh Yussuf called on me to break the news that the
King wished to give us presents. I am dealing separately with this.
19. We dined with the King at 6 • 30. He was in the best of form before and
during dinner; chaffed Mr. Philby over his unwillingness to adopt the Royal
suggestion that he should take a wife; expounded his own views as to the
excellence of matrimony up to the extreme limits allowed by the holy law; and
spoke freely of the way in which he was served by the sons of his former enemies.
He laughed at reports in the press that one of the Beni Rashid was raising the
Shammer against him, when the person named and others of that family were
with his sons at the front. All the sons of Dawish, he said, were also at the front.
20. He started on business again about 7-30. I broached the question of
the King’s relations with Koweit, the adjustment of which was strongly desired
by His Majesty’s Government with special reference to the desirability of ending
the present restriction on trade between Koweit and Nejd. A proposal, I
observed, had been made quite a long time ago to seek a basis of settlement, but
it had been held up by the question of the claims of the Sheikh of Koweit, a
matter which also required settlement. The King expressed eagerness for a
settlement of the blockade question on a basis of reciprocity. I asked what he
meant; whereupon he developed, not very clearly, various views as to the effect of
different prices for commodities in Nejd and Koweit and of smuggling. He said
that he could not agree to customs posts on the frontier, as they would cost more
than they would produce in the way of revenue, and smuggling would still go on.
I suggested that the control exercised by his blockade officer, A1 Bagawi, seemed
to be pretty effective, and that A1 Bagawi might be better employed in collecting
revenue than in stopping trade. The King was not impressed by this, but, finally,
said that he would welcome a meeting of representatives of himself and the
sheikh to devise a settlement. He did not revert to the question of the sheikh’s
claims. I preferred not to carry the discussion further in view of the sheikh’s
attitude since the meeting of commissioners was first proposed.
21. I asked the King generally how he wished our discussion to be followed
up. I was not very clear, I said, as to the plans of Fuad Bey Hamza. If Fuad
Bey was coming to London and was authorised to express His Majesty’s views;
he would have an opportunity of doing so, while I was at home. Alternatively’
the ground might be prepared during my absence for the final handling of the
questions on my return from leave. The King said that Fuad Bey was to spend a
month m Pciiis cind would bo nblo to spofik for him in London. Ho suggested thnt
I should report our discussions at Taif and that any expression of His Majesty’s
Government’s views should be conveyed to his Government, whereupon Fuad Bey
would be instructed. I pointed out that this would take time and the Kino 1
presently agreed to my counter-suggestion that Fuad Bey should be acquainted
with what had passed at Taif, and should be instructed at once as to the line on
which he should pursue the discussion in London.
22. At this point I said that, althougn there were other outstanding
questions, I did not wish to trouble His Majesty personally with them, and I

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Content

This volume primarily concerns British policy regarding the south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia.

It includes interdepartmental discussion regarding the approach that the British Government should take in reaching a settlement with King Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] over the demarcation of the boundaries.

Much of the correspondence discusses the legal and international position of what is referred to as the 'blue line' (the frontier which marked the Ottoman Government's renunciation of its claims to Bahrain and Qatar, as laid down in the non-ratified Anglo-Ottoman Convention of 1913 and redefined and adopted in the Anglo-Ottoman convention of the following year), a line which is not accepted by Ibn Saud as being binding upon his government.

The volume features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan); the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. (Lieutenant-Colonel Trenchard Craven William Fowle); the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Kuwait (Lieutenant-Colonel Harold Richard Patrick Dickson); the Political Agent A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency. , Bahrain (Lieutenant-Colonel Percy Gordon Loch); the Chief Commissioner, Aden (Bernard Rawdon Reilly, referred to in the correspondence as Resident); the Secretary of State for the Colonies (Sir Philip Cunliffe-Lister); the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Sir John Simon); the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs; officials of the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, the War Office, and the Air Ministry.

Matters discussed in the correspondence include the following:

  • Whether the British should press Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] for a general settlement of all outstanding major questions.
  • The extent of territory that the British should be prepared to include in any concession made to Ibn Saud.
  • The British response to what are referred to as Ibn Saud's 'ancestral claims' to territories east of the blue line.
  • Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Taif, in July 1934.
  • Meetings held at the Foreign Office between Sir Andrew Ryan, George Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Minister for Saudi Foreign Affairs), and Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Arabian Minister in London), in September 1934.
  • The boundaries of a proposed 'desert zone', suggested by Rendel, where Ibn Saud would hold personal rather than territorial rights.
  • Saudi-Qatari relations.
  • Whether tribal boundaries should be considered as a possible solution to the boundary question.

Also included are the following:

The Arabic material consists of one item of correspondence (an English translation is included).

The volume includes a divider which gives a list of correspondence references contained in the volume by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence (folio 4).

Extent and format
1 volume (392 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.

Physical characteristics

Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 394; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.

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