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File 3839/1916 Pt 1 'Persia: - Incidence of expenditure in - question of revising the agreement of 1900' [430r] (878/880)
The record is made up of 1 volume (430 folios). It was created in 10 Mar 1914-4 Jun 1928. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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agreed upon in 1900 was subsequently reduced), and that our proposal
related only to the time at which the payment of that sum in respect of any
given year should be made—our view being that it would now be reasonable
and appropriate to make it at the same time as we receive the sums now paid
by the foreign Office in respect of that given year. Mr. Behrens said that
the Ireasury were entirely opposed to the change suggested. He did not
deny that the existing system gives the Treasury the advantage of the interest
on 4,087L 10s. continuously. But, he held that the procedure under which
the time of payment of this sum is fixed, was decided upon as an outcome of
the Agreement of 1900, and that so long as that Agreement remains in force
the Treasury are entitled to any benefit which the procedure may give them.
In view of the attitude taken up by the Treasury, there does* not appear
to be any use in pursuing the subject further at present, and the matter must,
I think, now be dropped. Hoes the Political Secretary concur?
F, W. Newmauch.
9th February 1911.
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Copy of Unofficial Letter to Mr. Wilkins of the Treasury.
India Office
The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors.
, Whitehall, S.W.,
Hear Wilkins, 11th January 1911.
You may remember that in 1904 you and Abrahams arranged the
procedure to be adopted in adjusting the payments by this Office to the
Foreign Office in respect of Hiplomatic and Consular expenditure in con
nection with Persia and various minor consulates. The procedure is set
forth in Treasury letter to the Foreign Office of 16th January 1904,
No. 19,089/03 (Annex to Enclosure 2 of Political Despatch No. 75, dated
29th July 1904, of which a copy is attached), and in subsequent letters, and
is as follows :—
In any given year (say A), India is to pay to the Foreign Office 4,0871 10s.
in respect of that year (-— 6 , 0001 , less a permanent reduction of
1,9121 10s. for which see
India Office
The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors.
letter of 27th July 1904,
Enclosure 8 , to the above-mentioned Despatch), plus or minus an
adjustment in respect of the financial year but one before the given
year (say B), the plus portion consisting of half of any net increase in
the Foreign Office expenditure in year (B), as compared with September
1900, and the minus portion consisting of half any net increases in
Indian expenditure in year (B), as compared with that at September
1900.
The transactions therefore fall into two parts, viz. :—(1) a payment in
respect of the given year (A), and (2) an adjustment in respect of the earlier
year (B).
At the time when this arrangement was made, the adjustment in respect
of year (B), though consisting of a refund to this Office, was smaller than the
payment to the Foreign Office in respect of year (A). For some years,
however, the situation has been completely changed, the amount of the refund
being far in excess of the payment in respect of year A.
For example, in 1907-08 we paid the Foreign Office 4,0871 10s. in respect
of that year (receiving at the same time a refund of 7,4701 16s. from them
in respect of the year 1905-06), whilst in 1909-10 we received a refund of
16,8181 Ss. 8 cl in respect of the year J 907-08 (paying at the same time
4,0871 10s. in respect of 1909-10.
It seems to us that the procedure of making a fixed payment of 4,0871
10s. to the Foreign Office in respect of a given year, though originally
quite appropriate, is no longer so, now that a very much larger payment is
really due from the Foreign Office to us.
These views were set forth in letters to the Foreign Office dated 19th March
and 8 th September last, of which I attach copies, but have met with an un
favourable reception from them and you (see your letter to the Foreign Office
dated 2 nd November 1910, No. 17037/10 (39,976)). 1 think there must be
some misconception as to what it is we are asking and why ; and, as you were
concerned in the drafting of the original arrangement, I am writing to you
unofficially in the hope that you may take the view that our request is a
reasonable one, and that, if we renew it, it may be agreed to.
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The volume contains papers mostly relating to expenditure incurred in Persia, and the issue of how this expenditure should be divided between the Imperial and Indian Exchequers.
The papers mainly consist of correspondence between the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and the following: the Foreign Office, the Foreign and Political Department of the Government of India, and the Treasury; as well as India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Minute Papers, Reference Papers, and other India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. papers and notes.
The volume mostly concerns diplomatic and consular expenditure, specifically: the question of revising the existing arrangements under which, following the recommendations of the Welby Commission of 1900, the cost of this expenditure in Persia had been shared roughly equally between the Indian and Imperial Revenues (between the Indian Political Department and the Foreign Office); the proposals of the Foreign Office that Indian Political Department posts in Persia should be transferred to the Levant A geographical area corresponding to the region around the eastern Mediterranean Sea. Consular Service, and thus come under the responsibility of the Foreign Office, with the Government of India paying a yearly contribution towards the posts; and the objections of the Government of India to the Foreign Office’s proposals.
The volume also includes papers regarding: the cost of troops from the Indian Establishment employed in Oman and Persia during the First World War; and the projected contribution from Indian Revenues of a moiety of a loan of £2,000,000 to the Persian Government under the ‘Curzon Agreement’ [Anglo-Persian Agreement] of 1919. In addition, it includes some papers relating to expenditure on diplomatic and consular establishments in Turkish Arabia A term used by the British officials to describe the territory roughly corresponding to, but not coextensive with, modern-day Iraq under the control of the Ottoman Empire. , Muscat and China, as well as Persia.
The file includes a divider which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
- Extent and format
- 1 volume (430 folios)
- Arrangement
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
The subject 3839 (Part 1, Persia, and Part 2, China) consists of two volumes, IOR/L/PS/10/626-627. The volumes are divided into two parts, with each part comprising one volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 430; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.
The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers, nor does it include the leading and ending flyleaves.
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