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File 4931/1916 'Arabia [Nejd]: Bin Saud's subsidy. Payment of subsidy authorised on 1 Jan. 1917. Question of incidence. Payments made without Treasury authority' [202r] (412/418)
The record is made up of 1 volume (202 folios). It was created in 6 Oct 1916-5 Apr 1922. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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[P 4462]
[P 4593]
(Addressed b oreign, Simla, repeated to Secretary of State for India.)
i °c ^ er f nce to Foreign No. 92720 S. I have jest received further
letter from Bm Sand dated 3rd September. He makes no allusion to receipt
of any fiesh communication from Sherif, but apparently means his present
lettei to be the further reference ” which he promised as reported in my
telegram No. 4523 of 7th September.
As regards question of attacking Bin Rashid in or near Hail he first
alludes to need for guns before mentioned, but then goes on to say only
present obstacle is that political juncture appears to him unfavourable.
He then observes that if questions of attacking Bin Rashid or assisting
Sherif are merely matters of Arab policy concerning chiefs inter se, then it
is a question of watching for such a suitable opportunity as will ensure
successful result, and this they may be counted upon to do. If or? the
other hand either project affects our interests as well as his own, he says
that he will no doubt conform to our views and wishes after discussion with
me, preferably at personal-meeting.
With Army Commander’s permission I could probably arrange to bring off
a meeting with him towards latter part of this month, but if it is not desired
to press upon him any specific form of action it would perhaps be better not
to have meeting just now, but simply inform him that His Majesty’s
Government hope he will do his utmost to support Sherif in whatever way
he considers fit and feasible.
Please let me know wishes of Government on this point.
From Secretary of State to Viceroy, 27th October 1916.
(Repeated to Sir P. Cox.)
Secret. Bin Sand. Your telegram of 30th September. Have you any
further observations on Cox’s telegram of 6th October regarding Bin Sand’s
letter of 3rd September ? If Section 15 of Bin Sand’s letter of 20th July
indicates disposition to pla} T off Egyptian against Indian authorities, Cox
should discourage any such attempt, and allay suspicions that British
Government would sacrifice his interests or that Sherif is not acting in good
faith, in proof of which his deposition by the Turks could be cited.
Though Bin Sand’s military value against the Turk is small, he can
indirectly assist by holding Bin Rashid in check and preventing him from
attacking Sherif or Basra. This need nor involve capture of Hail. A limited
offensive of this kind is not inconsistent with view expressed in your telegram
of 30th and might be encouraged in his own interest. If some assistance in
way of munitions is really needed, Cox might report actual requirements.
From Viceroy, Foreign Department, 31 st October 1916.
Secret. Your telegram of the 2/th October. Bin Sand. Following
telegram from Sir P. Cox, 5558, 29th October :~~
(R.) “ Following from
Political Agent
A mid-ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Agency.
, Bahrein
“M received to-day open letter from Bin Sand to your address
which he asked me to read and telegraph on. Gist as follows (First.)
Turkish Government has sent 25 German and Turkish Officers, .>00 soldiers
with guns and supplies, and Rasheed Bin Lyla, Constantinople agent, Ibn
Rashid, to Ibn Rashid. Rasheed with one lurkish and two Geiman officeis,
have left Hail in direction of Iraq. .
“ ‘(Second.) Turks in Medina have abandoned idea of moving on Mecca,
and troops detailed for this expedition have returnedAo Syria. _
“ ‘(’Third.) Bin Sand is very anxious to have an interview with you, and
says he will be in [? Hasa on] 7th November. . i < ir \ .
“I am just leaving in ‘Lawrence for Bahrein and ha tar. 11 Army
Commander lias no objection perhaps I had better see Bin Sand. After
having expressed urgent desire for interview, he would misinterpret my
having been so near at hand and not complying with Ins request. He could
probably meet me about I-th Lovembe i.
We will report on point raised in your telegram after Cox s meeting
with Bin Sand, which should clear air.
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The volume contains papers, mostly correspondence and India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Minute Papers and Reference Papers, mainly relating to the subsidy paid to Ibn Saud, Emir of Nejd [Najd]. It includes papers relating to the following:
- The proposal to pay Ibn Saud a monthly subsidy of £5,000 per month, the cost of which would be borne by Imperial Revenues.
- The enquiry into the authority given for the continuance of the payment by the Civil Commissioner, Baghdad, of the £5,000 monthly subsidy to Ibn Saud beyond the period of six months originally sanctioned by the Treasury.
- The proposal to debit Ibn Saud’s subsidy against the surplus revenues of Mesopotamia [Iraq].
- The request to the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. from the War Office for a refund of £69,068.
The main correspondents are: the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. ; the Foreign and Political Department of the Government of India; the Foreign Office; the War Office; the Treasury; the Civil Commissioner Baghdad; Sir Percy Zachariah Cox; and Harry St John Bridger Philby.
The file includes a divider which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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The subject 4931 (Arabia [Nejd]: Bin Saud's subsidy. Payment of subsidy authorised on 1 Jan. 1917. Question of incidence. Payments made without Treasury authority) consists of one volume.
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 202; these numbers are written in pencil, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 59-178; these numbers are written in crayon.
The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers, nor does it include the two leading and ending flyleaves.
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- front, back, spine, edge, head, tail, front-i, i-r:i-v, 1r:73v, 75r:76v, 78r:124v, 126v:129v, 135r:135v, 138r:202v, ii-r:iii-v, back
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