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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎142r] (294/914)

The record is made up of 1 volume (453 folios). It was created in 7 Sep 1927-10 Jan 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Fuad Bey acquiesced, and explained that what was intended was a return
to the situation as it existed before the abortive Haifa Conference of 1928 He
suggested, however, that the Saudi Government might reserve their position in
regard to the ownership of the railway in an official note
No objection was seen in principle to this procedure, though it was pointed
out to Fuad Bey that something would depend on the actual wording of the
Saudi reservation.
Fuad Bey explained that the matter had hitherto only been dealt with
unofficially. If His Majesty’s Government were prepared to accept the Saudi
suggestion, his Government contemplated addressing an official note on the whole
subject to both the Butish and French Governments, and proposing therein a
technical conference on the lines he had indicated.
It was agreed that the next step was for His Majesty’s Government to reply
to the outstanding Saudi enquiry, which could not, however, be done until the
views of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan authorities had been obtained.
The next subject on Fuad Bey’s list was the question of telegraphic and
wireless communication between Saudi Arabia and the outer world, with
particular reference to the provisions of the Jedda-Port Sudan Cable Agreement,
Fuad Bey recalled the fact that the Saudi Government were debarred by
article 6 of this agreement from using their wireless stations in the Hejaz for
the purpose of communication with other countries. When the agreement had
been signed there were two separate Governments, in the Hejaz and in Nejd,
and the agreement had been interpreted as applying to the Hejaz only. The
situation had now greatly changed in every respect; and the Saudi Government
were finding it exceedingly inconvenient to be obliged to send all telegraphic
communications from the Hejaz by the Port Sudan cable. A French company,
the Radio Orient, and various Italian interests had also approached the Saudi
Government in the matter.
Sir A. Ryan recalled that the working agreement had been entered into by
the Sudan and Hejaz Governments jointly as joint owners, and by the Eastern
Telegraph Company as workers, of the cable. The agreement was terminable on
two years’ notice, to be given either by both joint owners or by the company.
Fuad Bey said that an exchange of notes had taken place between the Sudan
and Saudi Governments arranging that if the Saudi Government should approach
the Sudan Government with a view to the termination of the agreement, the
Sudan Government would agree to join in giving the required notice.
Sir A. Ryan stated that the interpretation of the agreement had in the past
given rise to various legal difficulties which had not, however, been pui sued, as
the amalgamation of the Eastern Telegraph Company with Marconis seemed to
have simplified the problem. On the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. side, however, a somewhat
similar problem had arisen over the question of communications between asa
and Bahrein. Conversations had taken place between King Ibn baud, Sheikh
Yusuf Yasin and Sir H. Biscoe in 1932. No advance had been made, and the
matter had lain dormant for some time, but had lately been revived and His
Majesty’s Charge d’Affaires at Jedda had been instructed to revert to it with
the Saudi Government.
Fuad Bey Hamza also raised the question of the charges on the cable. It
was agreed, however, that the question of the interpretation of the Jedda-Poit
Sudan Cable Agreement and of Saudi wireless cmnmumca io dj ,
countries was a very technical one and one m which 1 a «K T . would be
in the United Kingdom were not very ec ^y ^onle^
preferable, therefore, that this question should not be^ ea ^ 1 meeting
general settlement. It was agreed that the best coin se w himself and
to be arranged before Fuad Bey’s departure from London between nimseit an
renresentaWs of Cables and Wireless (Limited) (now incorporating inter aha
bo?h the Eastern Telegraph Company and M h t~L“ d ar t s/mS who 8 ^
representative of the Sudan Government, possibly Sir Stewait Symes,
1 1 t , 1 • 'T'' 1 A 1/^0
understood to be in England on leave.
[206 x—1]
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Content

This volume concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia).

The volume largely consists of copies of Foreign Office and Colonial Office correspondence. The correspondence near the beginning of the volume discusses Ibn Saud's [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd's] wish to enter into full diplomatic relations with the British Government. The Hejazi Government's proposal in 1929 to establish a legation in London is accompanied by a request for the British Government to raise the status of its Agency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, headed by an agent. and Consulate in Jedda to the same status.

The subsequent correspondence in the volume discusses the following:

  • The British Government's consideration (and acceptance) of Ibn Saud's proposal, and the appointment of Sir Andrew Ryan as His Majesty's Minister at the British Legation in Jedda in May 1930.
  • Hafiz Wahba's appointment as Hejazi Minister in London in 1930.
  • Complaints made by the Hejazi Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding Sir Andrew Ryan's attitude and conduct since his arrival in Jedda.
  • Details of an Hejazi-Nejdi diplomatic mission to Europe (including visits to Italy, France, Britain, and the Netherlands), undertaken in May 1932 and headed by Amir Feisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Hejazi Minister for Foreign Affairs (this part of the volume includes detailed accounts of the mission's meetings with Foreign Office officials during its visit to London).
  • Sir Andrew Ryan's account of his meeting with Ibn Saud at Taif in July 1934, and their discussion of the 'blue line' (the frontier which marked the Ottoman Government's renunciation of its claims to Bahrain and Qatar, in the Anglo-Ottoman convention of 1913) and the Kuwait blockade.
  • Details of several meetings held at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia), Sir Andrew Ryan and George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), during September 1934, regarding the 'blue line', the Kuwait blockade, and the future of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927).
  • Requests from the Italian Government for information regarding Fuad Bey Hamza's visit to London.

The volume features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Agent and Consul at Jedda, a position that was raised to His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda in late 1929 (Hugh Stonehewer Bird, William Linskill Bond, Cecil Gervase Hope Gill, and Albert Spencer Calvert successively); His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan); His Majesty's Ambassador in Rome (Ronald William Graham); Ibn Saud; Amir Faisal; officials of the Hejazi/Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs; officials of the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

In addition to correspondence, the volume contains a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the Committee of Imperial Defence's Standing Official Sub-Committee for Questions Concerning the Middle East. The meeting, which took place in London on 8 November 1934, was primarily concerned with the settlement of the 'blue line' issue, the Saudi- Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier, and the Kuwait blockade.

The volume includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the volume by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 volume (453 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the first folio with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 449; these numbers are written in pencil and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The front and back covers, along with the two leading and two ending flyleaves, have not been foliated.

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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎142r] (294/914), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2087, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066378256.0x00005f> [accessed 24 April 2024]

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