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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎169r] (337/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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konsieur Atychid.es may prove a serious stumbling-block when,
as a result of detailed treaty discussions, it is realized
by the Persian Government that this claim would be barred by
the existing draft. This conjecture is, 1 recognise all too
likely to be borne out by events. I consider, however, that
the situation which would then arise, while full of difficulty,
would be unlikely to follow exactly the lines suggested in
your despatch under reply and would probably not, therefore,
justily the adoption of the solution which you propose. If,
as you suggest, the Persian Government had it in their power
to bring about the liquidation of this claim by the mere act
rex erring it to the League of Nations, there would certainly
be advantages in allowing it to be brought before the claims
commission provided for in the treaty article, especially if
i-iiis could be done without abandoning the clause barring war
claims in general. In point of fact, however, while an
attempt on the part at the Persian Government to bring this
claim before the League ql Nations would undoubtedly be
embarrassing and unwelcome, it is by no means certai n that such
action would result in the final liquidation of the case.
There would indeed be at least a fair prospect of convincing
the Council of the League that such questions cannot be
regulated by them without stultifying the principles underlying
the Optional Clause. Again, an intimation by His Majesty 1 s
Government that there were many British claims against the
Persian Government, which would have to be considered
concuirently, would be less likely to lead to a general
compromise (as you anticipate, than to induce the Council to
drop the matter altogether, in the realisation that they were
coming to be looked upon as a sort of standing claims tribunal.
Consequently it can hardly be said that, whatever wording be
eventually adopted for the Claims article in the general treaty,!
His Majesty»s Government will in any case be faced with the
necessity of lighting this case and hence risking the serious
financial/

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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎169r] (337/691), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/3501, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066723404.0x00008c> [accessed 25 April 2024]

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