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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎172r] (343/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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"The written proceedings of the tn bunal shall
"be in the French language, but the agents and counsel
"appointed by the respective High Contracting Parties
"shall be permitted to plead in their own language,
"their speeches being translated into French if and
"when necessary."
3. Oi these three amendments, (c) is self-explanatory.
(b) seems to us desirably in view of the fact that certain
minor British claims were apparently never included in the
recapitulatory lists oi claims which the Tehran Legation
presented irom time to time to the Central Government at Tehran,
but were mereay forwarded by His Majesty’s Consular Officers
to the local Persian Governors. (a) is the only point of
any importance; the words which we now propose to omit were,
oi course, originally intended to enable us to exclude from
the scope of the barrer clause a variety of British claims
which have no real connexion with war conditions in Persia.
In theory such a distinction is a reasonable one, but our
legal advisers, who have gone into the question very carefully,
have now reached the conclusion that in practice the phrase
would provoke endless argument and would clog the whole
machinery oi the claims settlement. In addition, it would
inevitably give rise to much public discussion regarding the
violation of Persian neutrality by British forces (among
others) during the war. This, of course, would be highly
embarrassing (indeed, the desire to avoid such public discussion
of the war period in Persia has always been one of our main
reasons lor proposing to incorporate the barrer clause in the
draft article) and would incidentally be only too likely to
influence the neutral arbiters against us.
4. ae hope, then, that in the light of the explanations
given aoove you will be able to concur in the three amendments
in question. The matter is rather urgent, as until we receive
your/

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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎172r] (343/691), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/3501, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066723404.0x000092> [accessed 18 April 2024]

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