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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎194v] (388/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Q.—Was that flag changed ?
A.—This ship is being sold to Persian Company. Then in Constantinople
with permission of Turkish and Persian Ministers he changed flag and put up
Persian flag, but before arriving here in Bombay they put up Turkish flag.
Q.— On the voyage they travelled under the Persian flag and just before 5 ^
they came into Bombay they put up the Turkish flag.
A.—Yes.
Q.—After they had been in Bombay a short time was it changed to the
Persian flag again.
A.—After arriving he put up the Turkish flag. 10
Q .—{By Registrar ): From Constantinople to Bombay what flag did the
“ Kara Deniz ”* fly.
A.—Turkish.
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Q.—After how many days when you were in Bombay did he change the
flag into Persian.
A.—10 or 15 days after the flag was changed.
Q.—You then changed the flag for the first time ?
A.—For the first time.
Q.—Why was it that you changed..the flag ?
A.—From the Head Office of the company they received a telegram that
they had sold this steamer to the Persian Company, so the flag should be
changed and on receiving that information the flag was changed.
Q.—Was that from your own knowledge ?
A.—These telegrams were received and I myself read them.
Q.—Where was the telegram ?
A.—It is with the Captain.
Q.—Is it with the ship’s papers ? •
Q—(By Registrar) : Is the telegram with the ship’s papers or not ?
A.—Now they are in the hands of the Captain.
Q.—When the British authorities came on board the ship did they hand 30
over the books and papers and everything to the British ?
A.—I do not know whether they were given or not.
Q.—Were you present when the ship was captured ?
A.—Yes, I was present.
Q.—Was the name of the ship changed ? 35
A.—Since the ship was sold to the Persian Company, so the name was
also changed. It is now called “ Hamadan ”.
Q.—What is the name of the Persian Company ?
A.—Socrate Company.

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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎194v] (388/691), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/3501, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066723404.0x0000bf> [accessed 25 April 2024]

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