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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎195v] (390/691)

The record is made up of 1 file (343 folios). It was created in 29 Oct 1927-10 Feb 1938. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Q.—Are these your papers (produces a pocket book to witness) ?
A.— These are my private papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
(Shewn a paper taken from ship’s papers.)
Q.— What is this ?
A.—A programme of the ship’s voyage. This is a very old one. 5
(The following documents were shown to witness and identified by him
and produced to Registrar and marked by him as under.)
Ex. A. Doctor’s Diploma marked A.
Ex. B. Two Captain’s Diplomas and one certificate of Navigation marked B.
Ex. C. Chief Engineer’s Diploma marked C. 10
Ex. D. Chief Officer’s „ „ D.
Ex. E. Third Engineer’s „ „ E.
Ex. F. Second Officer’s „ ,, F.
(Witness shewn books and ship’s papers.)
Q.—Did you keep any of the books that, are here ? 15
A.—The books I kept are not here.
Q.—Where is the Passengers’ Ticket Book ?
A.—The Superintendent of’the Jail at Thana has some books.
Q.—Whah pay did you get ?
A.—T. T20 a month. ' • 20
Q-—Do you know the equivalent in English money ?
. A.—Every Turkish pound is about 14 rupees Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf. .
Q.—How long have you been in the service of the ship’s company ?
A.—One year and six months.
Q.—Have you not been with the company longer than that ? 25
A* In this company I ha^e served for l^ years but have served in other
companies.
Q. Have you been paid your wages for the whole voyage ?
A* w e did not get; only been paid for four months.
Q. When the ship was taken over by the Persian Company did the 30
Persian Company agree to take over the servants of the ship ?
A.—Yes.
Q.—Are you now a servant of the Persian Company ?
I wen ^ to Constantinople again I would not leave this company.
Q.~Do you say the Persian Company has agreed to employ the crew of 35
the ship ?
^ Tim company expected to pay only for this voyage.
Q—You came to Bombay and go back to Constantinople and then you
are discharged ?
A.—Everybody—when ship arrived here we must go immediately back. 40
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Correspondence, reports and other papers relating to the case of the SS Kara Deniz , a Turkish-owned steamship that was claimed as prize by the British Government at the moment of the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the First World War, while the vessel was moored at Bombay [Mumbai]. The papers focus on a financial claim made against the British Government by the vessel’s Greek owners, Socrates Atychides and Theodore Vahratoglou, based on the argument that the vessel had been sold to Persian owners before it was claimed as prize.

The file includes: correspondence beginning in 1927 and exchanged between the Foreign Office, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. and Government of India, responding to the Government of Persia’s desire to conclude the claim being pursued by Atychides against the British Government; discussion of whether the Kara Deniz was detained prior to or after the Ottoman Empire’s entry into the War; accounts detailing the seizure of the Kara Deniz , including a 1928 note entitled ‘A brief account of the circumstances attending the alleged detention at Bombay of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” prior to her capture as a prize vessel in 1914’ (ff 323-330), and another note entitled ‘Diary of certain events relating to the detention of the S. S. “Kara Deniz” at Bombay in 1914” (ff 151-152); copies of correspondence (some in French) from Atychides; a printed copy of the court proceedings at the High Court of Judicature at Bombay, Admiralty and Vice-Admiralty Jurisdiction, entitled ‘Case No. 3 of 1914. In Prize. Steamship “Kara Deniz.”’ (ff 189-246); discussion of the claim in relation to other outstanding claims and disputes to be settled between the British and Persian Governments; a report prepared by HM Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary A diplomatic representative who ranks below an ambassador. The term can be shortened to 'envoy'. at Tehran, Reginald Hervey Hoare, dated 1935, entitled ‘British claims against Persia’ (ff 84-109).

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1 file (343 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 345; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

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Coll 28/95 ‘Persia. Relations with H.M.G. Private claims against H.M.G.: case of the S.S. “Kara Deniz”.’ [‎195v] (390/691), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/3501, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066723404.0x0000c1> [accessed 28 March 2024]

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