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File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [144v] (295/769)
The record is made up of 1 volume (378 folios). It was created in 14 Apr 1925-28 Jul 1927. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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desert were probably necessary to him. In towns, however, some
system might have to be established whereby weapons would be left
at the entrance to a town and collected when leaving.
I then referred to the question of the return of loot taken in past
raids between tribes of ‘Iraq and Nejd. His Highness and myself
had discussed the matter at a previous meeting, and had agreed
that it was not possible for us to go into details, but that Taufiq Bey
Suwaidi, the ‘Iraq delegate, should discuss the question with Sheikhs
Hafiz and Yusuf. Taufiq Bey Suwaidi had informed me that he had
come to an agreement with His Highness’s advisers. I intended,
therefore, to ,send a letter to His Highness, suggesting a procedure
based on that agreement. I did not. think it was a matter that
should form the subject of a formal Agreement between us, but
thought that the question could be best arranged by means of an ex
change of letters.
Ibn Sa‘ud agreed to this procedure.
I then told His Highness that I thought I should acquaint him
with the attitude of His Majesty’s Government as regards Mr.
Philby, who was at present in Jedda. Mr. Philby now held no
official position under His Majesty’s Government, and, moreover,
had come to Jedda against their wishes. It was hardly proper that
he should intrude into an area of hostilities in which His Majesty’s
Government had declared neutrality and were determined to observe
it.
Ibn Sa‘ud noted my remarks and informed me that he had received
a letter from Mr. Philby asking for permission to visit him, travel
ling either by Rabegh or Lith, to which he had replied saying that
he was busy at the moment but that, if Mr. Philby wished to come
later, he had no objection to his doing so by way of Rabegh.
The meeting then closed.
Fifteenth Meeting.
An informal fifteenth meeting was held at 8 p. m. on the 30th
October, at which were present His Highness Ibn Sa‘ud, Mr.
Antonius, and Sheikhs Hafiz and Yusuf.
I started the conversation by informing His Highness that, as
our negotiations had now been satisfactorily completed, I proposed
to devote the few remaining days of my stay to private talks with
him, at which I hoped he would bring up any questions concerning
his country and its future development, on which he might wish His
Majesty s Government to be informed or regarding which he would
like their views. I added that there were one or two questions that
struck me as being suitable for discussion. One was that of the
channel of communication which should be adopted between his
Government and His Majesty’s Government, who were not entirely
satisfied with the present method and would like any suggestions he
might have to make with a view to improving it.
Ibn Sa‘ud replied that he himself was not satisfied with the present
system, which he thought led, at times, to misunderstanding and
lack of sympathy on the part of His Majesty’s Government owing
to their not being fully informed of his needs and of the general
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This volume contains correspondence, reports, telegrams, a memorandum and minutes between Sultan of Nejd Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the British Representative regarding the negotiations of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan boundary after the First World War. Related matters of discussion include the following: Gilbert Clayton’s mission; a conference agreement with tribunal representation; relations between Iran and Nejd relating to refugee issues; the British mandate; the railway in the southern part of Nejd; Mullah Hafiz; the Bahra agreement; the Hada Agreement; the Jeddah Agreement; and conflicts and riots between Iraq and Nejd around the frontier. The correspondence in the volume is mainly internal correspondence between British officials, although the Sultan of Nejd and officials from the Iraqi Government also feature.
The principal correspondents are: the High Commissioner for Iraq; Under Secretary of States; Sir Gilbert Falkingham Clayton, British Agent and Consul General in Jeddah; and the Government of Iraq. Other items of note include a hand-drawn map showing the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier (f 223), a draft of the negotiations between Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (ff 287-305); an annotated draft of negotiations by R V Vernon (ff 123-167); a newspaper article about the Anglo-Wahabi Agreement (f 196); and finally a memorandum with a list by the Iraqi Government summited to the Tribunal regarding the damages after the raids (ff 55-57).
The volume includes a divider, which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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The volume's contents are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.A previous foliation sequence between ff 256-378, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out. The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers.
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