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File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation [37v] (74/178)
The record is made up of 1 file (87 folios). It was created in 13 Jul 1921-4 Jan 1923. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Minister has the right of access to the Prime Minister, and could call a Cabinet
meeting on any subject. Similarly, every Privy Councillor has the right of access to
the King. Now his sole object was to make the Financial Commissioner effective, and
the Egyptian delegation objected to the provisions which he had suggested, on the
ground that the Financial Commissioner would naturally enjoy all these rights and
privileges. Lord Curzon, however, insisted that it should be clearly laid down,
because if it were not sooner or later the Financial Commissioner s rights would be
challenged. # . .
Sidky
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
said that Egyptian public accounts are published; their budget is
discussed and approved by the Legislative Assembly. All that was part, of the
Constitution. They had nothing to hide, and consequently the financial Commissioner
could find out everything without difficulty.
Lord Curzon said that in framing his proposal he might have put the matter in a
much more objectionable way. He might, for instance, have given the Financial
Commissioner the right of access to the High Commissioner. As it was he had only
given him access to his Egyptian chiefs.
Sidky
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
said that the country would certainly interpret a provision of this
nature as an infringement of Egyptian sovereignty.
Lord Curzon insisted that if it was not laid down it would sooner or later be
denied.
Rushdi
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
then said that he presumed that the Financial Commissioner’s
rights were limited to his specific functions as defined in the memorandum.
Lord Curzon, however, said that this was not what he intended ; on the contrary,
the Financial Commissioner would be free to raise any subject he liked with the Prime
Minister or the Minister of Finance. He himself had had great experience of this sort
of situation in India, and he asked the delegation to believe that he was trying to help
them and not attempting to impose an unnecessary control.
Sidky
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
said that they had undertaken to call in experts whenever they felt
they were necessary, but Lord Curzon was now imposing a restrictive control.
Lord Curzon said that he was not seeking to impose a control; he was only
providing the Financial Commissioner with powers which he would enjoy in every
properly organised office. The Egyptian delegation appeared to him unnecessarily
sensitive. According to them it was not necessary to have anything in the treaty
because on each point they claimed that it would naturally be all right. Lord Curzon
only wanted to put into the treaty what was least objectionable to the delegation, but,
at the same time, on the conclusion of the negotiations he could not go to His Majesty’s
Government with what would amount to a blank document.
Adly
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
then said that he would like tq speak about the Financial Com
missioner’s power of veto over the issue of loans. •
Lord Curzon said that this could be dealt with another day, together wdth the
question of the Judicial Commissioner.
Rushdi
Pasha
An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders.
said that the Financial Commissioner was being given the right to
take the initiative.
Lord Curzon said that the delegation surely did not propose to deny him even
that right. He added that the loan clause and the Judicial Commissioner’s functions
could be discussed at the next meeting, which was arranged for the following day
at 4 p.m.
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The file contains correspondence, minutes, and memoranda relating to negotiations between the British and Egyptian governments over Egyptian independence. Most of the file consists of minutes of conferences that took place at the Foreign Office during July and August 1921. These conferences involved an Egyptian delegation, led by Sir Adly Yeghen [Yakan] Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and the British, led by the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, Lord George Nathaniel Curzon. Matters covered in these meetings included: the termination of the British Protectorate, Britain's military presence, foreign relations, legislation, employment of foreign officials, financial and judicial control, Soudan [Sudan], the Suez Canal, communication rights, protection of minorities, retirement and compensation of British officials, and diplomatic relations between the two countries.
Also contained within the file are minutes by Ronald Charles Lindsay and John Murray, both Foreign Office officials, and correspondence between Curzon, Lindsay, Adly Pasha An Ottoman title used after the names of certain provincial governors, high-ranking officials and military commanders. , and Field Marshal Edmund Henry Hynman Allenby, High Commissioner for Egypt and Sudan. These papers all concern matters covered by the negotiations.
Documents of note include a copy of the Report of the Special Mission to Egypt, dated 9 December 1920 (folios 4-23), and a memorandum on the political situation in Egypt by John Murray, dated 4 January 1923 (folios 74-87).
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- 1 file (87 folios)
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The file is arranged in rough chronological order, from the front to the rear. On the inside front cover is a manuscript index with a numbered list of the file's contents.
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Foliation: the main foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the front cover with 1, and terminates at the inside back cover with 89; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. An additional foliation sequence is present in parallel between ff 2-87; these numbers are also written in pencil, but are not circled.
Pagination: the file also contains an original printed pagination sequence.
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- Mss Eur F112/261
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- File of printed papers marked 'Egyptian negotiation' between Curzon and Adly Pasha and the Egyptian delegation
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- front, front-i, 2r:24v, 27r:40v, 46r:53v, 55r:59v, 62r:62v, 64r, 65r, 66r:67v, 71r:85v, 88r:88v, back-i, back
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