Skip to item: of 1,034
Information about this record Back to top
Open in Universal viewer
Open in Mirador IIIF viewer

File 2182/1913 Pt 8 'Arabia – Policy towards Bin Saud' [‎397r] (379/602)

This item is part of

The record is made up of 1 item (300 folios). It was created in 7 Aug 1918-26 Dec 1918. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

Transcription

This transcription is created automatically. It may contain errors.

Apply page layout

Minute Pap
1'vom Political. Baglulad, 17th A ugust 191S.
(hepealed to Foreign and High Commissioner, Cairo.)
(Received 19th.) (ZT,
Secretary of States telegram dated 15th August (received
a ei ( espatc i of my telegrams Nos. 6<35 and 6730). Action will be taken
thereon forthwith. As regards supply of munitions to Bin Sand following
turtnei explanation is necessary Arms and ammunition sanctioned in
secretary o± State s telegram 20tli March were sent to Koweit 10th April
trom Basra ; owing to disturbed state of Koweit they were returned to Basra
Iftl J 6 CUSt °^ y an ^ not handecl to Bin Saud’s agent at Koweit till
• ioio il,)y Wr0t ? undei ' date July saying 150 boxes of ammunition sent
in 1910 were unfit for use and requested replacement. This was sanctioned
oy General Headquarters on 19th July. On 15th July he wrote that number
o boxes involved was 250, A further 100 boxes were at once sanctioned by
General Headquarters in replacement. Philby added : “ The (? 1,000) rifles
recently arrived are also subject to unfavourable criticism. Regret I am not
sufficiently expert in matter of arms to pronounce on such criticisms but
request either (1) that I be given expert assurance that rifles are for all
practical puiposes good and serviceable; or (2) that an equal number of
good and serviceable weapons be issued in exchange, preferably Enfield
carbines. Comparison of rifles issued by us to (?Sherif) and by Turks
10 Il)n Rashid creates dissatisfaction at palming off inferior weapons on
Nejd. Regret am personally partly responsible for selection of present
nfles, but plead lack of expert knowledge. So far as I remember was
assuied by Ordnance that rifles were serviceable. Matter urgent and beg
treatment on generous lines.”
The rifles in question were *303 Winchester rifles and were reported
quite serviceable by Ordnance. They are identical with those issued to
other Chiefs in Gulf and South Persia, but are doubtless inferior to those
issued in Hedjaz or by Turks.
_ Philby now writes under date 1st August:—“ 1,000 rifles now received.
Bin Sand is grievously disappointed at having such wretched weapons
palmed off on him. I accept responsibility for mistake made in circumstances
already explained, but beg that no time be lost in replacing them with really
serviceable rifles selected b} 7 responsible expert. Present consignment will
be returned if desired. Arabs too fastidious to use them at any price.
Enfield carbines or Mauser preferred.”
In the circumstances I think we should now send 1000*303 short rifles,
not in replacement of former consignment but in addition thereto, and
150,000 rounds. This quantity appears to me to be the minimum necessary
to retain Bin Sand’s personal goodwill and authority.
From Secretary of State to Viceroy, Foreign Department,
13th September 1918.
(Repeated to Civil Commissioner, Baghdad.)
Foreign Secret. Your telegram of 2nd September and connected
correspondence. His Majesty’s Government have had whole question under
further careful consideration. Military authorities here think it desirable
in present military situation that Bin Sand should be kept as quiet as
possible, and should be restrained if possible from military activity'or
aggressive action in any direction. For this reason they _ are against
increasing his armed strength or encouraging him to attack Bin Rashid at
present juncture. This view is strongly supported by General Officer
Commanding, Egypt, on military grounds, and is accepted by His Majesty’s
Government) We appreciate force of Philby’s plea for offensive against
Hail as furnishing Bin Sand with diversion desiderated in my telegram of
2nd August, but apart from fact that capture of Hail might m itself
precipitate rupture with King Husain, we consider that balance of advantage
lies in policy of marking time as recommended by military authorities. In
the circumstances we cannot for present modify decision not to supply^
1,000 short rifles. Philby should explain to Bin Saud that His Majesty’s
Government, while much concerned to learn that rifles already supplied do
not give satisfaction, regret^ that the}’ do not at present see their way to
replace them. They will, however, bear Bin Saud’s requirements in mind,
and may be able to meet him to some extent at a later date. Question of.
withholding 100 rifles sanctioned in my telegram of 28th August is left to
Your Excellency’s discretion.
(12,975). Wt. P148—38. 3000. 12/17. S.J.F.&Co.

About this item

Content

Part 8 primarily concerns relations between Bin Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and King Hussein of Hedjaz [Ḥusayn bin ‘Alī al-Hāshimī, King of Hejaz]. Included are the following:

  • discussion as to which ruler has the stronger claim to Khurma, and whether Bin Saud should be encouraged to begin hostilities against Bin Rashid [Saʿūd bin ʿAbd al-ʿAzīz Āl Rashīd, Emir of Ha'il], as a way of diverting the former's attention from other matters;
  • copies of a treaty between the British government and Bin Saud, which was signed on 26 December 1915 and ratified on 18 July 1916;
  • debate about whether the British should supply Bin Saud with more arms and ammunition (to make amends for providing him with 1000 cheap Winchester rifles);
  • discussion of the possible benefits of arranging a meeting either between King Hussein and Bin Saud or between the former's son and the latter's brother;
  • discussion about the possibility of an officer from the Egyptian service succeeding Harry St John Bridger Philby as the British representative to Bin Saud;
  • reports of Bin Saud having begun operations against Bin Rashid, and discussion as to how the British should respond;
  • speculation on King Hussein's actions in Khurma and the implications for Britain's policy in the region;
  • a copy of a memorandum from the Foreign Office's Political Intelligence Department, entitled 'Memorandum on British Commitments to Bin Saud';
  • reports of an Ikhwan force advancing towards Mecca, and discussion as to how the British should respond.

This item features the following principal correspondents:

Extent and format
1 item (300 folios)
Written in
English in Latin script
View the complete information for this record

Use and share this item

Share this item
Cite this item in your research

File 2182/1913 Pt 8 'Arabia – Policy towards Bin Saud' [‎397r] (379/602), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/10/389/2, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100032845625.0x000009> [accessed 13 May 2024]

Link to this item
Embed this item

Copy and paste the code below into your web page where you would like to embed the image.

<meta charset="utf-8"><a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100032845625.0x000009">File 2182/1913 Pt 8 'Arabia – Policy towards Bin Saud' [&lrm;397r] (379/602)</a>
<a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100032845625.0x000009">
	<img src="https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000419.0x00011c/IOR_L_PS_10_389_0810.jp2/full/!280,240/0/default.jpg" alt="" />
</a>
IIIF details

This record has a IIIF manifest available as follows. If you have a compatible viewer you can drag the icon to load it.https://www.qdl.qa/en/iiif/81055/vdc_100000000419.0x00011c/manifestOpen in Universal viewerOpen in Mirador viewerMore options for embedding images

Use and reuse
Download this image