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File 1356/1912 Pt 1 'Turco-Persian Frontier:- negotiations at Constantinople.' [‎108v] (226/885)

The record is made up of 1 volume (436 folios). It was created in 7 Feb 1912-25 Sep 1912. It was written in English and French. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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Lord Crewe’s opinion, be modified in any respect in order to provide for the pomts
enumerated in the finkl paragraph of Sir P Cox’s shorter telegram of the j 3 rd May
In regard to the longer telegram of the same date, I *0 enc ^ e > e c
information of the Marquess of Crewe, certain comments on deta ' •
’ LOUIS MALLET.
Enclosure
Telegram from Lieutenant-Colonel Sir P.
Cox to the Marquess of Crewe. (Com
municated by India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. , May 24.)
Muscat, May 23, 1912.
APART from question of jurisdiction
over waters of Shatt-el-Arab, which has
been dealt with separately, following are
salient points of my letter No. M. b5,
dispatched to Government of India and
London on 21st May, regarding Turco-
Persian frontier, in reply to Mr. Parker’s
memorandum of 3rd April:—
Firstly, independence of Kaab. State
ment at p. 8 of Wilson’s precis shows Kaab
to have been under Persia in 1620, that is,
prior to date of Sultan Murad’s treaty.
Moreover, available evidence tends to
show that they never were really Turkish
subjects.
Secondly, ownership of the lands between
the locally recognised frontier and Moham-
merah. Local Turkish authorities have
accorded unequivocal and repeated recog
nition of present boundary by erection of
marks and maintenance for many years of
permanent frontier customs post at Diaiji;
such action should make it impossible for
them after a lapse of sixty years to claim
another frontier to which their pretensions
are at least doubtful. It is hardly likely
that they would get support from Hague
Tribunal.
Thirdly, status in Turkey of sheikh and
his tribesmen. Foreign Office seem to be
unduly apprehensive in this regard. Pro
visions of Treaty of Erzeroum appear to
refer to nomad tribes only, and not to
settled agriculturists like these. They
represent bulk of very large agricultural
community, and as Turks have no surplus
population wherewith to replace them, it
seems extremely unlikely that they will
attempt to oust them, even if they were in
a military position to do so, which is very
doubtful. Problem has not caused much
practical difficulty hitherto, and v* ill
probably adjust itself if left to the local
authorities. Sheikh of Mohammerah, at
all events, will adopt a reasonable attitude
in his own interests.
in No. 1.
Comments by Mr. Parker.
Firstly. I have no observations to make
on this beyond what is stated in my
memorandum of the 3rd April, 1912. A
full history of the Chaab is contained in
Major Rawlinson’s memorandum of 1844.
I have already pointed out that the state
ment on p. 7 of Lieutenant Wilson’s precis
to the effect that the independence of the
Chaab was recognised by treaty is based
on an erroneous reference and appears
not to be founded on fact. But the point
seems only to be of academic interest.
Secondly. I have stated in detail in my
memorandum the reasons why the prospect
of a favourable issue of a reference to TJie
Hague Tribunal seems uncertain: but the
matter is admittedly one of speculation.
^Thirdly. A separate memorandum on
this point is in course of preparation.

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The volume discusses the disputed Turco-Persian Frontier, particularly at Mohammerah, and the negotiations in Constantinople to attempt to settle it.

The correspondence focuses on:

  • the differences of opinion over the actual boundary at Mohammerah, including several maps demonstrating these differences;
  • movements of Turkish and Russian troops;
  • ownership of the Shat-el-Arab and questions of access for navigation;
  • copies of treaties, correspondence and memoranda dating back to 1639 relating to the question of the Turco-Persian frontier.

The principal correspondents in the volume are the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Sir Edward Grey); the Secretary of State for India (Robert Offley Ashburton Crewe-Milnes, 1st Marquess of Crewe); the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. (Sir Percy Zachariah Cox); the British Ambassador to Constantinople (Sir Gerard Lowther); the British Ambassador to Russia (Sir George Buchanan); the Viceroy of India (Charles Hardinge, 1st Baron Hardinge of Penshurst); the British Ambassador to Tehran (Sir George Head Barclay); representatives of the Foreign Office (particularly Alwyn Parker) and the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. ; and Arthur Talbot Wilson, on special duty in relation to the Turco-Persian Frontier.

This volume is part one of two. Each part includes a divider which gives the subject and part numbers, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references contained in that part by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 volume (436 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.

The subject 1356 (Turco-Persian Frontier) consists of 2 volumes, IOR/L/PS/10/266-267. The volumes are divided into two parts, with each part comprising one volume.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 436; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.

The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers, nor does it include the leading and ending flyleaves.

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