Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [9r] (17/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers.
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FROM itmiSTER OF SlhirB'S OFFICE CMRO TO FOREIG-M OFFICE.
No. 42 SAVING •
50th December, 1942,
D. untimed 31st December, 1942.
R. 5.00 p.m. 20th January, 1943.
Repeated to Bagdad No., 56. )
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Jerusalem No. 78. ) Saving.
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„ Aping heard that I had called at Jedda on my way
to Eritrea, I bn Saud telegraphed asking me to return at
the end of the year when he would he there during the
pilgrimage. ' ... \
I was met at the aerodrome in the early afternoon "
of December 27th with an invitation to call at the Palade
at 4.30. This, first.interview was followed by two.further
talks m the morning and afternoon of December 28th, and my
Visit ended with a banquet that evening. Altogether we
talked for about .6 hours out of the 30 and I owed much to
the fluent Arabic of Mr. Wall who acted as interpreter.
. Saud ■ s friendliness was almost embarrassing.
It is.contrary to Arab hospitality for the host‘to. signify
that an interview is ended but he so often reseated that all
his time v/as entirely mine that it was always "difficult to
take my leave.
In this outline of our discussions I will not repeat
what has already been covered by His Majesty's Minister in Jedda
m his despatch No. 51 of December 13th 1942. -
We examined problems of supply and arranged for the
representative of the Middle East Supply Centre who had
a 2 c °?P an i e ^ me.to Jedda to,discuss matters with the Minister
ox Finance. We.discussed the prospect of greater productivity
as a result of the survey by American experts of agricultural
possibilities. Ibn Saud said that boring had proved the
existence ol water East and North East of Riadh but generally
at great depth necessitating pumping machinery which could
not^now be procured. It vail not be easy to apply expert
advice. Wen I suggested veterinaiy research might help
to deal with the ravages of disease among camels, he said
it would be impossible to induce wandering tribes to take
advantage of scientific advice.
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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