Coll 6/21(2) 'Saudi Arabia: Relations with H.M.G.: Saudi Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah. Prolongation of Treaty of Jedda.' [194r] (387/761)
The record is made up of 1 file (379 folios). It was created in 14 Jan 1935-12 Apr 1947. It was written in English and Arabic. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT
EASTERN (Arabia).
November 2, 1936.
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CONFIDENTIAL.
Section 2,
2^
E 6851/131/5$]
Copy No. 120
(No. 283.)
Sir,
Sir R. Bullard to Mr.
iSovember 2.)
Jedda, October 11, 1936.
I HAVE the honour to report that, after the exchange of notes on the
3rd October, Sheikh Yusuf Yasin asked whether he could see me about certain
other questions, and it was arranged that he should call at the Legation on the
5th October. He had already asked whether I wished to continue the discussion
of the Koweit and frontier questions or would prefer to await the return of
Fuad Bey Hamza, which was expected to occur very soon, and I told him that
the Saudi counter-draft of article 1 of the proposed Koweit regulations against
smuggling was being considered by His Majesty’s Government, and that, as to
the other matters, it would perhaps be well for me to wait until Fuad Bey’s return,
since I was new to the post, and needed as much time as possible to make myself
fully acquainted with the relevant files. Sheikh Yusuf had made no objection
to this, and had concluded that all questions of major interest were therefore in
abeyance, and that on the 5th October he would discuss minor questions at issue,
such as the blacklisting of certain pilgrim guides. He, however, embarked upon
a long statement on foreign affairs, which, he said, he had been charged to make
by His Majesty King Abdul Aziz. He spoke very carefully, hesitating from
time to time, as though to recall Ibn Sand’s exact words. The statement, however,
was so clearly, in its more important parts, only a repetition of many statements
made to the Legation during the Ethiopian dispute, that it has been possible to cut
down to a page or so the summary which I attach to the present despatch.
2. In reply, I said that Sheikh Yusuf must not expect a detailed answer. I
was new to the post, and I had not been warned what he proposed to talk about.
(I might have reminded him that when he asked for a meeting I had enquired
whether he wished to speak of anything of great importance, so that I might be
prepared, and that he had waved this aside.) As to Palestine, I was happy to
say that, when I was received by Mr. Eden after my appointment, he authorised
me to convey to His Majesty King Abdul Aziz his "personal thanks for the help
offered in connexion with the Palestine dispute. On all other points except one
my remarks were purely conventional. The exception was Italy, though even on
this point I confined myself to generalities. I said that it was clearly impossible
for me to go beyond statements made to the Saudi Government by Sir Andrew
Ryan, acting on instructions from His Majesty’s Government. For myself, I
would suggest that the Saudi Government should take a long view and not think
only of the Ethiopian question, which had been complicated by the fact that
the whole world was trying to find a solution by hitherto untried" methods. The
Saudi attitude towards the Italian offer of money and arms was presumably
prompted by a desire to maintain their independence, an aim which must have
the fullest sympathy of His Majesty’s Government. His Majesty would do well
to look again at the Rome understanding of 1927. It was not usual to give such
assurances as the Saudi Arab Government had wished to receive. What would
happen would depend on world affairs, on a host of circumstances. The King
had at least one solid fact to go upon—the long experience of His Majesty’s
Government to which Sheikh Yusuf had referred with appreciation. I stated
that what Sheikh Yusuf had said would be reported to the Foreign Office, and I
concluded with suitable thanks for the assurances of friendship, and with similar
assurances on our own part.
3. Since the meeting which I have described, I have read with great
attention all the papers relating to the attempt made by Ibn Saud a few months
ago to obtain from His Majesty’s Government assurances that they would assist
him if he should be threatened by the Italians. It is difficult to see what Ibn
Saud expects to gain by raising this point again, when it has been dealt with
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This file, like the previous volume (IOR/L/PS/12/2087), concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of Saudi Arabia.
The file largely consists of copies of Foreign Office correspondence, mainly between His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan, Sir Reader William Bullard, Hugh Stonehewer Bird, and Stanley R Jordan successively) and officials of the Foreign Office. Other prominent correspondents include the following: the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda (Albert Spencer Calvert, succeeded by Alan Charles Trott); His Majesty's Ambassador in Baghdad (Sir Kinahan Cornwallis); Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd]; Amir Faisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Minister of Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia; officials of the Colonial Office and the War Office.
The correspondence documents the progression of negotiations for a general settlement between the two governments, which would result in the initial prolongation of the validity of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927, which initially expired in September 1934) for a period of seven years from 1936 (and for another seven years from 1943).
In addition to discussing matters relating to the proposed general settlement (e.g. the eastern and south-eastern boundaries of Saudi Arabia, slavery regulations, arms traffic, and Saudi debts), the correspondence also documents various visits and meetings, including the following:
- The visit of Amir Saud [Āl Sa‘ūd, Sa‘ūd bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz, heir apparent of Ibn Saud] to Britain (17 June-1 July 1935), accompanied by Fuad Bey Hamza, Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia.
- Further meetings at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza, Hafiz Wahba (Saudi Minister in London), Sir Andrew Ryan, George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), and other Foreign Office officials, in July 1935, following on from meetings in September 1934.
- Sir Andrew Ryan's meetings with Ibn Saud in Riyadh in December 1935 and in Jedda in February 1936.
- Four interviews held between Ibn Saud, Sir Reader William Bullard and George William Rendel, in Jedda, during March 1937.
Also discussed are matters relating to the Second World War, including:
- An exchange of letters between Ibn Saud and the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, in early 1939, which principally relate to Ibn Saud's concerns regarding his country's security in the event of the beginning of general hostilities.
- German radio broadcasts in Jedda during the first few weeks of the Second World War and their possible effect on the Jedda population.
- The possibility of Iraq and Saudi Arabia formally joining the Allies in the Second World War.
In addition to correspondence the file includes the following: a copy of a programme for Amir Saud's visit to Britain (ff 339-348); exchanges of notes (in English and Arabic) between the Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the British Legation at Jedda, confirming the prolongation of the Treaty of Jedda, dated 1936 and 1943 respectively (ff 189-192 and ff 4-5); a sketch map showing air routes over Saudi Arabia and Iraq (f 31v).
Although the material in this file falls inside the date range of 1935-1943, the final document in the file does include an additional date stamp which is marked '12 April 1947'.
The file includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the file by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.
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- 1 file (379 folios)
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The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence commences at the inside front cover with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. A previous foliation sequence, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out.
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- front, front-i, 2r:4r, 5r, 6r:31r, 32r:75v, 77r:77v, 79r:152v, 158r:173v, 175r:180v, 186r:187v, 188v:189r, 190v:191r, 192r:199v, 201r:204v, 206r:266v, 269r:275v, 276v:278v, 280r:286v, 288r:293r, 295r:314r, 316r:380v, back
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