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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎136r] (282/914)

The record is made up of 1 volume (453 folios). It was created in 7 Sep 1927-10 Jan 1935. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

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THIS DOCUMENT IS THE PROPERTY OF HIS BRITANNIC MAJESTY’S GOVERNMENT
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September 19, 1934.
Section 1.
[E 5874/2429/25] No. 1.
Record of First Meeting with Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Saudi Arabian Minister
for Foreign Affairs), held at the Foreign Office on September 19, 1934.
FUAD BEY HAMZA called on Mr. Rendel this morning accompanied by
the Saudi Arabian Minister in London, Sheikh Hafiz Wahba. Sir A. Ryan was
also present, except at the beginning of the conversation.
2. Mr. Rendel drew Fuad Bey out on the subjects he wished to discuss, and
elicited the fact that he regarded the question of the south-eastern fh tier of
Saudi Arabia as being of special importance.
3. Fuad Bey dealt first, however, with the question of the relations between
Saudi Arabia and Iraq. He wished to know how His Majesty’s Government
would view a tightening up of those relations in the common interest of two Arab
countries, both of which were on specially friendly terms with His Majesty’s
Government His Government had not made any definite approach to the Ii aqi
Government^ but they had the possibility in view, always provided that His
Majesty’s Government saw no objection. They did not wish to do anything
contrary to His Majesty’s Government’s policy.
4. Mr. Rendel said that he would like to have a clearer view of what
Fuad Bey had in mind. Speaking generally, and subject to the approval ot tlie
Secretary of State, he said that His Majesty's Government would welcome any
thing tending to promote concord and prosperity between the Arab states and
would therefore view with sympathy any rapprochement between baud Arabia
and Iraq which had for its object the promotion of peace m ^ I ' abla o f 1 ,
necessary to consider carefully the nature of any proposed understanding to
ensure that it was consonant with the existing obligations of the P^Ges notabl}
those of Iran under her Treaty of Alliance witn us and as a member ot tne
League of Nations. He did not think, however, tha ‘^^““^“shhed
barrier to a closer understanding between Saudi A , rablaaad Jp dhfHnrA
that any points which might arise could be covered by suitable dra g-()
5. Sir A. Ryan concurred, adding, however, tbat f GtHHchluarantef
Abdui Aziz had rather more in view and sought some sort o %
of the proposed Saudi—Iraq understanding.
6. Fuad Bey said that this was of Hifldf jes’ty^GoTOrm
guarantee, but wished merely to . as ? er h :i y landing would be suitable, whether,
ment. He went on to ask what kind of " nd “y al ?f 1 it or whether their
for instance His Powt^ whfch would be kept informed
position would be merely that or a tn , n a the tic interest,
at intervals of what was passing and would take a sympathetic mte
7. Mr. Rendel explained, on the one hand, the objections of 013 uiv.-ih,.
of the Secretary of Mate, that His 1 J j ra n subject to what he
sympathy a rapprochement between aua existing obligations, but that,,
had said about the need for harmomsi ^ information as the parties directly
while they would be glad to receive s themselves parties to the
concerned might give them, they would prefei not to
understanding arrived at.
• i .S hv the Foreign Office legal advisers in connexion
p) This question has already been fully ^^pact.
with an earlier proposal for a Perso-Iraqi non
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This volume concerns relations between the British Government and the Government of the Hejaz and Nejd (later Saudi Arabia).

The volume largely consists of copies of Foreign Office and Colonial Office correspondence. The correspondence near the beginning of the volume discusses Ibn Saud's [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd's] wish to enter into full diplomatic relations with the British Government. The Hejazi Government's proposal in 1929 to establish a legation in London is accompanied by a request for the British Government to raise the status of its Agency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, headed by an agent. and Consulate in Jedda to the same status.

The subsequent correspondence in the volume discusses the following:

  • The British Government's consideration (and acceptance) of Ibn Saud's proposal, and the appointment of Sir Andrew Ryan as His Majesty's Minister at the British Legation in Jedda in May 1930.
  • Hafiz Wahba's appointment as Hejazi Minister in London in 1930.
  • Complaints made by the Hejazi Ministry of Foreign Affairs, regarding Sir Andrew Ryan's attitude and conduct since his arrival in Jedda.
  • Details of an Hejazi-Nejdi diplomatic mission to Europe (including visits to Italy, France, Britain, and the Netherlands), undertaken in May 1932 and headed by Amir Feisal [Fayṣal bin ‘Abd al-‘Azīz Āl Sa‘ūd], Hejazi Minister for Foreign Affairs (this part of the volume includes detailed accounts of the mission's meetings with Foreign Office officials during its visit to London).
  • Sir Andrew Ryan's account of his meeting with Ibn Saud at Taif in July 1934, and their discussion of the 'blue line' (the frontier which marked the Ottoman Government's renunciation of its claims to Bahrain and Qatar, in the Anglo-Ottoman convention of 1913) and the Kuwait blockade.
  • Details of several meetings held at the Foreign Office between Fuad Bey Hamza (Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs for Saudi Arabia), Sir Andrew Ryan and George William Rendel (Head of the Foreign Office's Eastern Department), during September 1934, regarding the 'blue line', the Kuwait blockade, and the future of the Treaty of Jedda (the treaty signed between Britain and Ibn Saud in 1927).
  • Requests from the Italian Government for information regarding Fuad Bey Hamza's visit to London.

The volume features the following principal correspondents: His Majesty's Agent and Consul at Jedda, a position that was raised to His Majesty's Chargé d’Affaires to Jedda in late 1929 (Hugh Stonehewer Bird, William Linskill Bond, Cecil Gervase Hope Gill, and Albert Spencer Calvert successively); His Majesty's Minister at Jedda (Sir Andrew Ryan); His Majesty's Ambassador in Rome (Ronald William Graham); Ibn Saud; Amir Faisal; officials of the Hejazi/Saudi Ministry of Foreign Affairs; officials of the Foreign Office, the Colonial Office, and the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. .

In addition to correspondence, the volume contains a copy of the minutes of a meeting of the Committee of Imperial Defence's Standing Official Sub-Committee for Questions Concerning the Middle East. The meeting, which took place in London on 8 November 1934, was primarily concerned with the settlement of the 'blue line' issue, the Saudi- Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier, and the Kuwait blockade.

The volume includes two dividers which give a list of correspondence references contained in the volume by year. These are placed at the back of the correspondence.

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1 volume (453 folios)
Arrangement

The papers are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the file.

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Foliation: the foliation sequence for this description commences at the first folio with 1, and terminates at the last folio with 449; these numbers are written in pencil and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio. The front and back covers, along with the two leading and two ending flyleaves, have not been foliated.

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Coll 6/21(1) 'Hejaz-Nejd: Relations with H.M.G.: Hejaz Legation in London and British Minister in Jeddah.' [‎136r] (282/914), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/12/2087, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100066378256.0x000053> [accessed 28 March 2024]

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