File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [132r] (270/769)
The record is made up of 1 volume (378 folios). It was created in 14 Apr 1925-28 Jul 1927. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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that
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Government fixed this last point as that at which the eastern frontier
of I rans-Jordan should end, and that they could not consent to any
encroachment beyond the line which they had already proposed in
reg-ard to the southern portion of that section of the frontS.
With reg-ard to the northern frontier of Nejd I reminded Ibn Sa‘ud
Nnmh 6 A?K een ‘ Iraq and Nejd ’ as laid down Protocol
Number 2 to the Muhammara Convention, ended at the intersection
M ™r dla " 39 ° E - -‘h parallel 32» N„ a’nd informed him
Tr y a S ^° V ! rnme u nt ^ US \ insist that the frontier between Nejd
< d lians-Jordan should take off from that point and also could
parallel"^’ n ! 0 f ° ° W any IIne which Carried k to the north of
Ibn Sa‘ud took strong exception to the last statement, maintaining
that free access between Nejd and Syria was vital, and that he
r'rtiorus "f tH a PP rehenslon the existence astride those communi
cations of a strip of territory under the control of ‘Iraq and Trans
jordan. In reply I regretted that my instructions left me no discre
tion on this point.
Second Meeting.
The second meeting took place at 9 a.m. on Monday, the 12 th
October, with the same attendance as before.
Ibn Sa‘ud maintained that the
Wadi
A seasonal or intermittent watercourse, or the valley in which it flows.
Sirhan had always been part
of his dominions and Kaf had been in the possession of his grand-
father. It was only at the instance of Sir Percy Cox that he had
refrained from occupying it. I suggested that any legitimate rights
might perhaps be safeguarded by some sort of saving clause in the
Agreement, but Ibn SaTid said he could not see what guarantees
would be of any value if he had to give it up, though he, on his side
was prepared to give such undertakings as might be considered
necessary. I suggested that possibly Ibn Sa‘ud did not so much
wish to occupy Kaf as to have the principle established that it lay
within his dominion, but he replied definitely that he wished to
occupy the place and that the mere recognition of his rights to Kaf
would be of no use if occupation were denied to him.
. 1 P oint ed out that the establishment by him of a strong force
m military occupation of a strategic point like Kaf must be viewed
W,t a § r * ve u^asmess by the Government of Trans-Jordan and re-
f, at l ded b y H ’ s Majesty’s Government as a menace to territory under
their Mandate. If one party is holding an important strategic
position, that party is either on the defensive or is definitely menac
ing his neighbour and an occupation by him of such a nature could
wu rega , r ?S aS m,1,tar y rath er than political or administrative
What I would like to ascertain was the real motive of His Highness
in wishing to occupy Kaf; was it merely because he wished to have
the place included within his territory, and in that case was he ore-
pared ^ ^ ave !t °P en for a11 Purposes; or \vas it his intention to
estabhsh there a strong military post, the reason for which could
only be either that he contemplated offensive action or that he was
himself afraid of being attacked.
Ibn Sa'ud admitted that his motive in wishing to occupy Kaf had
been to convert it into a stronghold, but if his occupation was likely
to be regarded as a menace he would be prepared to take su?h
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This volume contains correspondence, reports, telegrams, a memorandum and minutes between Sultan of Nejd Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the British Representative regarding the negotiations of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan boundary after the First World War. Related matters of discussion include the following: Gilbert Clayton’s mission; a conference agreement with tribunal representation; relations between Iran and Nejd relating to refugee issues; the British mandate; the railway in the southern part of Nejd; Mullah Hafiz; the Bahra agreement; the Hada Agreement; the Jeddah Agreement; and conflicts and riots between Iraq and Nejd around the frontier. The correspondence in the volume is mainly internal correspondence between British officials, although the Sultan of Nejd and officials from the Iraqi Government also feature.
The principal correspondents are: the High Commissioner for Iraq; Under Secretary of States; Sir Gilbert Falkingham Clayton, British Agent and Consul General in Jeddah; and the Government of Iraq. Other items of note include a hand-drawn map showing the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier (f 223), a draft of the negotiations between Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (ff 287-305); an annotated draft of negotiations by R V Vernon (ff 123-167); a newspaper article about the Anglo-Wahabi Agreement (f 196); and finally a memorandum with a list by the Iraqi Government summited to the Tribunal regarding the damages after the raids (ff 55-57).
The volume includes a divider, which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.
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The volume's contents are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.
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Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.A previous foliation sequence between ff 256-378, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out. The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers.
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