Skip to item: of 769
Information about this record Back to top
Open in Universal viewer
Open in Mirador IIIF viewer

File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [‎136v] (279/769)

The record is made up of 1 volume (378 folios). It was created in 14 Apr 1925-28 Jul 1927. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .

Transcription

This transcription is created automatically. It may contain errors.

Apply page layout

a flag-. Sa'dun, however, went to some tribes near the border and
pretending- he came with orders from Ibn Sa ud, persuaded them
to join him in raiding tribes across the frontier. His Highness was
very angry when he heard of this and took immediate steps to
recover all looted property which was returned to the tribes, who had
since stated that all their losses had been made good. King Faisal
however, had sent for Sa‘dun and asked why he had played this
trick, to which Sa‘dun replied that he had thought his action would
please the ‘Iraq Government and annoy Ibn Sa‘ud. Sa‘dun was
loaded with presents and made much of and is said now to be in
the service of the ‘Iraq Government. His Highness thought this
case had a bearing on the point in question.
I pointed out that Sa‘dun had started^ on his exploit as an ‘Iraqi
and not as a subject of Nejd, and if h's Government accepted his
version of the affair that was their responsibility.
Ibn Sa‘ud said that the tribes who had raided with Sa'dun had
been punished by him and that afterwards they had gone to ‘Iraq.
I agreed that the story, if true, which I was not in a position to
admit, was instructive, but I did not think it supported His High
ness’ arguments. In such a case the proper course would have
been to deal suitably with Yusuf Sa'dun but not to have endeavoured
to attract those tribes to come over. If the two governments acted
loyally towards each other I did not see that the principle to which
he attached so great importance was in fact essential.
Ibn Sa'ud asked what would happen If a tribe raided in its own
cpuntry and then sought refuge in another. I agreed that such
cases might occasionally occur but, even if an Extradition Treaty
were in force it could not be applied to political offenders. All the
same I could see that it was His Highness’ point of view that it
would assist him in governing his country if the tribes knew they
could not run away to another country with impunity.
In answer to Ibn Sa‘ud’s question as to what would happen
supposing the King of ‘Iraq spread the news that tribes could
not be sent back and urged them therefore to go over to him, I
said that my knowledge of the ‘Iraq Government assured me that
such a suggestion was entirely unwarranted; indeed, the ‘Iraq
Government had declared that they were willing to undertake to dis
courage tribes from coming into their country. Ibn Sa'ud asked
what he should do if a tribe came over to him. I said that if a tribe
chose to come across that tribe could not be prevented from so
doing and asylum could not be refused. His Highness repeated
that he was perfectly convinced that unless the clause about the
restitution of tribes were embodied in the agreement it would be
worthless, and added that he could not subscribe to any agreement
which did not contain the provision he wanted. I replied that I was
sorry that His Highness should take up this attitude, and had I
been aware of it before I should certainly not have thought it worth
while coming all this way to discuss the question with him. The
‘Iraq Government would not agree to that principle; the British
Government were of opinion that ‘Iraq was right; and if the point
were pressed I must drop the whole question. I was not asking
His Highness to subscribe to any agreement which he considered to
be wrong in principle, and I could not see w r hy he should obstinately
maintain his attitude and refuse to consider anything that did not

About this item

Content

This volume contains correspondence, reports, telegrams, a memorandum and minutes between Sultan of Nejd Ibn Saud [‘Abd al-‘Azīz bin ‘Abd al-Raḥmān bin Fayṣal Āl Sa‘ūd] and the British Representative regarding the negotiations of the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan boundary after the First World War. Related matters of discussion include the following: Gilbert Clayton’s mission; a conference agreement with tribunal representation; relations between Iran and Nejd relating to refugee issues; the British mandate; the railway in the southern part of Nejd; Mullah Hafiz; the Bahra agreement; the Hada Agreement; the Jeddah Agreement; and conflicts and riots between Iraq and Nejd around the frontier. The correspondence in the volume is mainly internal correspondence between British officials, although the Sultan of Nejd and officials from the Iraqi Government also feature.

The principal correspondents are: the High Commissioner for Iraq; Under Secretary of States; Sir Gilbert Falkingham Clayton, British Agent and Consul General in Jeddah; and the Government of Iraq. Other items of note include a hand-drawn map showing the Transjordan Used in three contexts: the geographical region to the east of the River Jordan (literally ‘across the River Jordan’); a British protectorate (1921-46); an independent political entity (1946-49) now known as Jordan frontier (f 223), a draft of the negotiations between Gilbert Clayton and Ibn Saud (ff 287-305); an annotated draft of negotiations by R V Vernon (ff 123-167); a newspaper article about the Anglo-Wahabi Agreement (f 196); and finally a memorandum with a list by the Iraqi Government summited to the Tribunal regarding the damages after the raids (ff 55-57).

The volume includes a divider, which gives the subject number, the year the subject file was opened, the subject heading, and a list of correspondence references by year. This is placed at the back of the correspondence.

Extent and format
1 volume (378 folios)
Arrangement

The volume's contents are arranged in approximate chronological order from the rear to the front of the volume.

Physical characteristics

Foliation: the foliation sequence (used for referencing) commences at the first folio with 1 and terminates at the last folio with 380; these numbers are written in pencil, are circled, and are located in the top right corner of the recto The front of a sheet of paper or leaf, often abbreviated to 'r'. side of each folio.A previous foliation sequence between ff 256-378, which is also circled, has been superseded and therefore crossed out. The foliation sequence does not include the front and back covers.

Written in
English in Latin script
View the complete information for this record

Use and share this item

Share this item
Cite this item in your research

File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [‎136v] (279/769), British Library: India Office Records and Private Papers, IOR/L/PS/10/1144, in Qatar Digital Library <https://www.qdl.qa/archive/81055/vdc_100075776572.0x000050> [accessed 27 June 2026]

Link to this item
Embed this item

Copy and paste the code below into your web page where you would like to embed the image.

<meta charset="utf-8"><a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100075776572.0x000050">File 1166/1925 'Arabia: Nejd; negotiations with Ibn Saud regarding Iraq-Nejd question and Trans-Jordan boundary; Sir G Clayton's mission; Bahra agreement, 2nd November, 1925' [&lrm;136v] (279/769)</a>
<a href="https://www.qdl.qa/en/archive/81055/vdc_100075776572.0x000050">
	<img src="https://iiif.qdl.qa/iiif/images/81055/vdc_100000000466.0x000102/IOR_L_PS_10_1144_0279.jp2/full/!280,240/0/default.jpg" alt="" />
</a>
IIIF details

This record has a IIIF manifest available as follows. If you have a compatible viewer you can drag the icon to load it.https://www.qdl.qa/en/iiif/81055/vdc_100000000466.0x000102/manifestOpen in Universal viewerOpen in Mirador viewerMore options for embedding images

Use and reuse
Download this image