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File 4535/1928 Pt 10 ‘Persian Gulf: Anglo-Persian Negotiations 1928-30. Question of removal of Residency from Bushire.’ [180v] (358/460)
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do not know the language of the people with whom they deal, they do not know
their habits, and above all they have not been trained in the Law which they are
called upon to administer.
25. If they have to conduct a trial, and with 1,000 British Subjects and 3,000
Indians they must frequently do so or arbitrate, they are obliged to call in their
Indian Political Vice Consul to assist them.
26. In a recent murder case Captain Ryan the Vice Consul not only acted as
police in investigating the case he was also public prosecutor and while public
prosecutor addressed the judge as to procedure and as to law.
I am of opinion that an appeal stating the above facts would have succeeded and
the case would have been sent back for retrial or have been quashed in toto.
27. It is obvious that if you are going to have a code you must have officers
trained in it to administer it.
Now it has been admitted on all sides that the Indian code is essential for
Abadan and the Oil Fields and indeed with the rupture of our relations with
Russia with the anticipated Bolshevik propaganda among the Indian Staff I
consider that the use of this code and its extended powers become doubly necessary,
while if the present denunciation of the Treaties is to come into force and affect
the jurisdiction of our Consular Officers then indeed it becomes doubly necessary
to have a Consul who knows the language and the customs of the people with whom
primarily he has to deal.
28. But what have we gained by putting in a
Levant
A geographical area corresponding to the region around the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
Consular Officer to
counterbalance the loss in administrative power of an officer untrained in his work
and the language.
I have searched the files in vain. I can find nothing beyond that it provides
an extra appointment for the
Levant
A geographical area corresponding to the region around the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
service to encourage them and that it is
hoped that some economy has been arrived at.
29. I question the necessity of the truth of the latter statement. Captain
Ryan who was at Ahwaz and officiated for Mr. Moneypenny was nearly the same
age as the latter officer and certainly drew no more pay. I am of the opinion that,
by reorganising the services of Khuzistan and Shiraz the same work can be done
at a reduced cost.
30. Politically I can see no difference between having an Indian Political Officer
and a
Levant
A geographical area corresponding to the region around the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
Consular Officer and indeed Sir Percy Loraine in his No. 632, dated
October 19th, 1922 referring to the fact that Consuls in Persia were drawn for two
departments states “ it would be totally unfair to say that the working of the pre
sent system indicates any compelling necessity for such unification. 5 '
31. Both officers are equally subordinate to His Majesty’s Minister and I
'would here state that a Resident who does not see the absolute necessity for his
own complete subordination to the Minister at Tehran in all Persian matters has
not the political sense and is not fit for his important post.
32. That there has been a question on this subject it would be idle to deny, that
the apparently conflicting interests of England and India have sometimes produced
enquiry our files show. It is a curious and interesting fact that a committee of the
House of Commons examining the question in 1870 went so far as to say that the
Legation ought to be, like the present one in Kabul an Indian Legation or failing
that it should be staffed from India. This has never been since suggested by any
one and I only quote it to show that the interests of India were so great that a
Committee of the House of Commons could put this opinion on record.
33. These interests are as great to-day as they were in the past but we have
now the added Imperial interest of the Anglo Persian Oil Company and the fact that
the
Persian Gulf
The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran.
lies athwart the strategic air line to India and to the further east.
34. In these circumstances I would respectfully state my opinion as to the
course we should administratively follow.
Having marked, as I have done, the subordination of the
Political Resident
A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency.
to
the Minister, in all Persian affairs, it appears to me in no way to benefit our policy
or its carrying out to change the limits of the
Order in Council
A regulation issued by the sovereign of the United Kingdom on the advice of the Privy Council.
and to attempt to
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This part contains papers relating to the question of whether the British Political Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. at Bushire should be removed from Persian [Iranian] territory, and whether the functions of the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. should be separated from those of the Consul-General at Bushire. These questions were under discussion by the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence.
This part includes papers concerning the following issues: the view of the former Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Sir Frederick William Johnston, and HM Minister at Tehran, that conditions at Bushire were unsatisfactory and that the Persian Government would create difficulties for the Resident if the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. remained at Bushire; the possibility of the removal of the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. serving as a useful bargaining counter for the British Government in the treaty negotiations which were taking place with the Persian Government; the possibility of the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. being transferred to Basra, Karachi, Bahrein [Bahrain] or Koweit [Kuwait]; and objections of the Government of India to the removal of the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. from Bushire. The papers include correspondence, India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Political Department minute papers, internal India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. correspondence, and the following documents:
- A memorandum by the Secretary of State for India entitled ‘Question of separation of functions of the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. and those of the Consul-General, Bushire, and of the removal of the Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. from Persian soil’, dated 7 December 1928
- Draft minutes of the meeting on 15 May 1929 of the Sub-Committee on Political Control of the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence
- Draft minutes of the meeting of Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. Sub-Committee of the Committee of Imperial Defence of 18 March 1929.
The main correspondents are as follows: the India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. ; the Government of India Foreign and Political Department; the Political Resident A senior ranking political representative (equivalent to a Consul General) from the diplomatic corps of the Government of India or one of its subordinate provincial governments, in charge of a Political Residency. in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ; HM Minister, Tehran; the Colonial Office; and the Foreign Office.
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