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'Files 61/12 and 61/16 (D 80) Treaty between Bin Saud and H. M. Govt' [168v] (343/408)
The record is made up of 1 volume (200 folios). It was created in 19 Apr 1923-10 Mar 1930. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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close attention of His Majesty's Government during the last eighteen months or
more, and that, having now received and studied a very full report of the
conversations that had taken place at
Wadi
A seasonal or intermittent watercourse, or the valley in which it flows.
al Aqiq in December last. His Majesty's
Government had reached conclusions, in regard to' the various points of divergence,
which were based on a thorough consideration of the situation viewed from every
standpoint.
The King replied by a long dissertation on the political situation as affecting
the Hejaz, the \emen and Italy. He mentioned that he had received delegates from
the Imam in Mecca and that he had written quite frankly in reply pointing out,
first, that the Idrisi was his good friend and that he felt bound to protect him from
aggression and, secondly, that the Imam's relations with foreign Powers should be
so conducted as to cultivate the friendship of Great Britain while avoiding any
entanglements with weaker Powers which might involve him in difficulties which
would affect the whole of Arabia. He concluded by stating that he had received a
friendly reply from the Imam, and went as far as to produce the actual letter.
He discussed, at some length, Italian policy in the Red Sea, with special
reference to the Yemen, and expressed some anxiety as to the results which mi (r ht
arise from the Italian Treaty with the Imam Yahya.
bir Gilbert Clayton assured His Majesty that the results of his conversations
m Rome could in no way menace the interests of the Hejaz and Nejd. Indeed, the
fact that both parties were agreed to abstain from any interference in the internal
affairs of Arabia could only be to the advantage of Ibn Saud's Government.
Sir G. Clayton then briefly sketched the main points of the proposed treaty,
regarding which he observed that substantial agreement had been reached at
Wadi
A seasonal or intermittent watercourse, or the valley in which it flows.
al Aqiq except on the following four major points :—
{a.) The recognition of the position of His Majesty's Government in mandated
territories.
{h.) 1 he question of the slave trade.
(c.) The clause regarding nationality, to which Ibn Saud wished to add a
provision which gave rise to serious consideration.
{d.) The frontier between the Hejaz and Trans-Jordan as laid down in the draft
protocol.
After informing the King that His Majesty's Government had decided to meet
his views by not insisting on a specific recognition in the treaty of their position in
mandated territories. Sir G. Clayton dealt with three other points and explained
to Ibn baud the various considerations which precluded His Majesty's Government
from meeting his views, laying special stress on the questions of the slave trade and
Trans-Jordan frontier. fie stated that he quite appreciated Ibn Saud's
dilhcuit^S' but he was convinced, and he felt that he was also expressing the views
o His Majesty, that to postpone settlement was likely to increase rather than
decrease those difficulties.
Ibn Saud stated that he was quite confident of the good intentions and friendlv
spirit of His Majesty's Government and emphasised that he was not raisin"-
objections m any spirit of opposition to the principles upheld by His Maiestv's
Government, but that his difficulties were very real ones and such as he could not
possibly ignore.
2rd Meeting.
for ti!i ll L third T^ ng w { a ® held a . t 9 A - M - on the 11th May, in the house set apart
lor the accommodation of the mission.
P roc ^ edin S s by referring to the question of the slave
dislnr'nHrm P' 1 ' lhlhe(1 110 tact that drastic measures would entail serious social
Mt that hp nn w na ? C ■ , was " nw,lli ng to give any undertakings which he
the pvil f .(tJ 'f'" d rl , , ar 7 ' a ' un ' ess he was placed in a position to counteract
the evil effects which he foresaw must ensue, he found it very difficult to meet the
some ^nrm nfnr Ma:,eSt f S Gove ™ment. (This appeared to be an obvious hint for
some form of compensation.) At the same time, he was entirely in agreement in
was L in f'ipt prmt S s Government o n the question of the slave trade, which
as, in fact contrary to the Shana law, and it was only his conviction that serious
Lsorganisauon would result from drastic measures that prevented him from takino-
immediate action in the sense required.
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The volume mostly consists of correspondence concerning the relations between Britain and Ibn Sa'ud, with a specific focus on the negotiation and signing of the Treaty of Jeddah. The majority of the correspondence is between the British Legation in Jeddah and the Foreign and Colonial Offices in London. Copies were often sent to the Political Residency An office of the East India Company and, later, of the British Raj, established in the provinces and regions considered part of, or under the influence of, British India. in Bushire, the Political Agencies in Bahrain and Kuwait, and the High Commissioners in Baghdad and Jerusalem.
The volume follows the evolution of the Treaty:
- Britain's initial reluctance, due to their official friendship with King Hussein, to engage with the issue prior to Ibn Sa'ud's conquest of the Hejaz;
- how this event then gave cause for the Bahra and Hadda agreements of November 1925;
- the negotiations between Ibn Sa'ud and Gilbert Clayton in early 1927 leading to the signing of the Treaty of Jeddah on 20 May that year and its ratification in August.
At the end of the volume (folios192-196) is Clayton's final report on his mission to the Hejaz and includes a copy of the Treaty.
- Extent and format
- 1 volume (200 folios)
- Arrangement
The volume is arranged chronologically.
- Physical characteristics
Foliation: the sequence starts on the first folio and continues through to the inside back cover. The numbering is written in pencil, circled and written in the top right corner of each folio. There are the following irregularities: ff 1A-1C; f 185A; ff 78-84 are those of a booklet, stored in an envelope (f 77A). There is a second sequence that is also written in pencil but is not circled and is inconsistent.
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- 'Files 61/12 and 61/16 (D 80) Treaty between Bin Saud and H. M. Govt'
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- front, back, spine, edge, head, tail, front-i, 1ar:1cv, 2r:77v, 77ar:77av, 84r:107v, 109r:124v, 126v:153v, 155r:185v, 185ar:185av, 186r:189r, 191v:193v, 195v:199v, back
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