Enclosures of letter to Her Majesty's Secretary of State for India, No.17, dated 22 January 1875: Nos. 3 to 26 of Abstract of Contents, from the Officiating Under-Secretary to the Government of India, Foreign Department, Fort William [140r] (79/90)
The record is made up of 45 folios. It was created in 22 Jan 1875. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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Dated Palace, 17th December 1874.
From— D adabiiai N owrojee,
lo ( ol . S ir L. P elly , K .C.S .L, Agent, Govr.-Genl. and Special Commr., 13arod;i.
T he intended interview between His Highness and the
Sirdars
Leader of a tribe or a polity; also refers to a military rank or title given to a commander of an army or division.
has taken
place. As His Highness has not been able to go to you, he has directed me
to send you the enclosed translation of the notes taken of the conversation
which took place at the interview.
Dated Thursday Magsur Sood 9th 1931 = (17th December IS?^).
Memorandum of the conversation that took place between His Highness the Maharaja
Gaekvvar and the
Sirdars
Leader of a tribe or a polity; also refers to a military rank or title given to a commander of an army or division.
.
His Highness asked the
Sirdars
Leader of a tribe or a polity; also refers to a military rank or title given to a commander of an army or division.
" what they had to say"?
Thereupon, Yeshwant llao Raje Pandharay told his Karkoon to take out the
yadi. The said yadi was taken by Ramrao, the Karkoon of the
Nawab
An honorific title; an official acting as a provincial deputy ruler in South Asia; or a significant Muslim landowner in nineteenth century India.
, and
then Ramrao and other Karkoons came and sat in front of His Highness. Ram
rao took the yadi in his hand. In the meantime His Highness said that, "if
any yadi was to be given, it should be sent to the
Durbar
A public or private audience held by a high-ranking British colonial representative (e.g. Viceroy, Governor-General, or member of the British royal family).
, and that if the
assemblage of
Sirdars
Leader of a tribe or a polity; also refers to a military rank or title given to a commander of an army or division.
had to communicate anything they might do so by word
of mouth, it was not necessary for their Vakeels to say anything."
Upon this, the assemblage of Karkoons sat aside, and Naraenrao Raje
Pandharay said to His Highness that " we have already once before represented,
and we do now represent that our man 'pan (honors) should be continued to us
as before."
His Highness said—" the same ' man pan' is now continued as before. Tell
me in what respect it has been lessened ?"
Narayenrao said—"invitations to attend two Kutcheries were received by
us, but owing to the Gasha (square piece of embroidered cloth) of the Prati-
nidhi, we did not come; we came to the JBarsha (12th day) Kutchery only."
His Highness then said—" the office of Pratinidhi being given to him, his
(Pratinidhi's) Gasha must remain; the honor which he has received the Sahib
has also given him; you are all aware that honor is given at Sattara to the Pra
tinidhi."
Narayenrao Raje said—" In the time of the old Maharaja (SyajiRao) Your
Highness also sat without the Gasha."
His Highness said—" that was because he (the Maharaja Syaji Rao) was
my father. He used to take us on the guddeo also, and we sat below the guddee
too. That therefore can't be properly taken into account.
Formerly no one used to sit in front of you, but from the time of the old
Maharaja (Syaji Rao) the son-in-law began to sit in front; and from the time of
Khande Rao (Maharaja) the Senapati Nimbaji Rao began to sit in front, the
Dewan used to sit on the opposite side, but from the time of Govind Rao Roday
he sits in front of the
Nawab
An honorific title; an official acting as a provincial deputy ruler in South Asia; or a significant Muslim landowner in nineteenth century India.
.
" What is there in that ? Whatever honor we give it is but proper that you
should give also. You are our brethern and by giving honor you honor
yourselves."
Narayenrao Raje said—" pardon us for w r hat has been said."
His Highness said—" you may came and say (whatever you like)."
Then Narayenrao Raje said—" we hear many things, among which we
hear also about 25 per cent."
His Highness said—" the whole Raj expense is
Rupees
Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf.
1,25,00,000. Therefore
I reduce my own expenditure also, so you also should reduce your expenses,
then all will be right. If not, it is not a mango tree that you may gather as
you like. If revenue did not come whence am I to give ? At present the
expenses have increased. Of this, how can the Sursoobha Department, Fouj-
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The enclosures relate to the progress being made by Lewis Pelly as Special Commissioner at Baroda including improvements to revenue collections, proposals for land settlements, and attempts at arranging discussions to settle grievances and complaints between the Sirdars Leader of a tribe or a polity; also refers to a military rank or title given to a commander of an army or division. and Sillidars and the Gaekwar of Baroda (Malharrao). Also discussed is the marriage of the Gaekwar and birth of a son; the appointment of a Vakeel to the Gaekwar's court; and authorisation for Lewis Pelly to communicate directly with the Government of India rather than via the Government of Bombay From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions. .
The correspondence within the enclosures is between the Secretary to the Government of Bombay From c. 1668-1858, the East India Company’s administration in the city of Bombay [Mumbai] and western India. From 1858-1947, a subdivision of the British Raj. It was responsible for British relations with the Gulf and Red Sea regions. (Charles Gonne); Secretary to the Government of India, Foreign Department (Charles Umpherston Aitchison, and Frederick Henvey - Officiating Under-Secretary); Agent to the Governor-General and Special Commissioner at Baroda (Lewis Pelly); the Gaekwar of Baroda (Malharrao); and the Viceroy of India (Thomas George Baring, Second Baron Northbrook).
There are two copies of the enclosures: folios 103-124 and 125-145.
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