‘Persia – especially Seistan’ [395r] (788/949)
The record is made up of 1 file (475 folios). It was created in 7 Nov 1901-23 Aug 1905. It was written in English. The original is part of the British Library: India Office The department of the British Government to which the Government of India reported between 1858 and 1947. The successor to the Court of Directors. Records and Private Papers Documents collected in a private capacity. .
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(to be read with Mr. (Dung's note of 13th January 1905 on page 14 of these notes)
that the Mission is mainly composed of non-officials, such officials as are accompanying it
being members of the Kerman Consular staff not specially placed on deputation. In the above
circumstances, the finance Department will perhaps agree to dispense with a formal detailed
estimate accepting instead a lump estimate of
Rs. 20 , 000 , the amount of the grant to which
they have already agreed. The present
intention is that the Mission should return to India in March. The bulk of the expenditure
will therefore fall within the current financial year, though a small amount may remain to be
adjusted in 19U5-06.
L. Russell, —19-1-1905.
Vide Mr. Campbell’s note, 26 th October 1904 , on
page 5 of these notes.
Finance Department.
S. M. Fraser, —19-1-1905.
The views expre ! sed in Mr. Russell's note of the 19th instant will perhaps be agreed to.
But the Comptroller, India Treasuries, may first see unofficially for any remarks.
H. D. G.,—23-1-1905.
J. Campbell, —24-1-1905.
Comptroller, India Treasuries.
Seen and noted.
Rupees
Indian silver coin also widely used in the Persian Gulf.
20,000 will be taken for the Revised Estimate and nothing for
the Budget.
M. H. Oung,— 25-1-1905.
Finance Department.
The file may now be returned to the Foreign Department.
H. D. G.,—27-1-1905.
J. Campbell, —28-1-1905.
Foreign Department*
From the Secretary, Upper India Chamber op Commerce, Cawnpore, dated the 25 th O' rfr
' (received 30 th) January 1905 .
Forwards copy of Mr. Gleadowe Newcomen’s second report in connection with the Commercial
Mission to South East Persia, and copies of letters, dated 30th November and 2nd Decem
ber 1004, in connection therewith.
For iuforma’ion. The draft below to the Upper India Chamber of Commerce may issue.
2 . Please also see previous notes by the Finance Department and the Comptroller, India
Treasuries.
The Comptroller, India Treasuries, has accepted^ Rs. 20,000 for the revised estimate, and
• Viie his not. dated the 25 th January 1905 . n0 * Cti “ n , 1,1 “"Action
with his letter No. 2$5^8. h., dated the 19th
December 1904.
3. As it has been decided that Major Sykes is not to continue to finance the Mission, it
If they require more money they will have to send a Would appear to be premature to issue any
■tatemeut of how the Bs. 11,000 they have already had instructions to Major Cox at Bushire, in this
has been speut, and a revised estimate. *. *. .■u - mu ht- • ,
’ respect at this stuge. The Mission will be
A. Fremantle. returning to India next month, and should it
be found necessary to provide them with further funds for expenditure while in Persia, the
question could be taken up at the time of sanctioning such further expenditure.
G. M. C.,—2-2-1905.
(fyx
E. L. N.,—2-2-1905.
1. The draft to the Chamber may issue.
2 . Mr. Newcomen’s letters are interesting. The route to Kerman via S^idabad by
which he travelled ( paragraph 59 of route book) is apparently the “ winter route " mentioued
in his letter of 1 st November. The “ main
kafila
A train of travellers; a caravan; or any large party of travellers.
route" of the route book ( page 68 ) goes
due north via Daulatabad and Baft over rather higher country.
3. Why Government should plant a Consular Agent at Saidabad with its 600 houses
and exiguous trade is not apparent. Saidabad is important principally as the capital of
Sirjanand the point where the road to Yezd leaves that to Kerman; this route from
Bunder Abbas strikes the Kerman-Yezd route at Bahramabad.
A. Fremantle,— ‘3-2-1905.
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This part contains papers mostly relating to British interests in Persia [Iran] and the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. .
It includes a copy of the Board of Trade Commercial Intelligence Committee ‘Report received from Mr. H. W. Maclean, the Special Commissioner appointed by the Commercial Intelligence Committee of the Board of Trade, on the conditions and prospects of British trade in Persia.’
A handwritten note at the front of the file, on folio 5, states ‘Spare copy of notes & correspondence of the “Helmand Control” file (with maps)’. Folio 110 consists of handwritten notes, including one dated 27 April 1904, which states ‘The secret Helmand papers have been printed up, and a set, with necessary maps, is submitted for H.E. the Viceroy to take to England.’ Much of the file concerns the question of controlling the water of the Helmand river and irrigating its whole delta, and the work of the Seistan Arbitration Commission to arbitrate between Persia and Afghanistan on the question of rights to the water of the Helmand in Seistan.
The file also includes reports by W A Johns on reconnaissances of potential railway routes made while he was attached to the Seistan Arbitration Commission, and other papers relating to railways and roads in Persia.
In addition, the file includes copies of the following Government of India Foreign Department Proceedings, which reproduce received Foreign Department correspondence on the following subjects: ‘Selection of a British naval base in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. .’, November 1901, Nos. 74-83; ‘Visit of His Excellency the Viceroy to the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. during November-December 1903.’, February 1904, Nos. 33-127; ‘Establishment of telegraphic communication with Henjam. Question of the selection of a naval base in the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. . Aggressive action of the Persians at Tamb and Abu Musa; their claim to the Islands.’, June 1904, Nos. 300-388; ‘Reports of the Commercial Mission to Persia.’, June 1905, Nos. 45-111; ‘Question of retaining flagstaffs erected in the neighbourhood of the Musandim Promontory’, August 1905, Nos. 288-307.’
The file also includes: brief handwritten notes written by Curzon on headed paper belonging to the Viceregal Lodge, Simla, relating to Seistan and to Lord Kitchener’s planned reforms for the reorganisation and redistribution of the Indian Army; and a printed copy of the report ‘A Note by Major H.L. [Herbert Lionel] Showers, C.I.E., on the present state of affairs in Kelat and a review of the system of Administration now being pursued.’
The file includes four maps: ‘Map of the Tail waters of Helmand River’ (13 July 1903), f 122; ‘Plan Shewing Proposed Routes for a Railway from Nushki to Afghan Frontier near Robat’ (10 April 1903), f 139; ‘Extract from Admiralty Chart No. 753. (Entrance to the Persian Gulf The historical term used to describe the body of water between the Arabian Peninsula and Iran. ).’ (October 1901), f 219; and ‘Sketch of route Ram Hormuz to Fellahieh.’ (April 1904), f 230.
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The papers are arranged in no apparent order, apart from the Government of India Foreign Department Proceedings, folios 231 to 474, which are arranged in chronological order.
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- front, 2r:194v, 195v:196r, 197v:199v, 200v, 201v, 203r:272r, 273v:275v, 277r:405v, 408r:408v, 409v, 411r:413v, 414v:419v, 420v:424v, 425v:432v, 433v:435v, 436v, 437v:443v, 444v:471v, 473r:475v
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