"ملف 8/7 I تقارير الاستخبارات في جدة" [ظ‎‎٧] (٥٣٦/١٤)

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instructions to arrive, it was not until the end of July that Captain Glubb
leceived instructions to suggest to Ibn Seyd a date and place ior the meet-
mg. He did so, but received a reply from Ibn Seyd that he had not yet
received Ins instructions. About August 10 however the latter sent to say
tha, he was ready and they met only to find that Ibn Seyd, as already men-
tioned had neither lists of past raids nor instructions as to future procedure.
Yet the Hejazi Under-Secretary has since categorically informed His
Majesty s Charge d’ Affaires at Jedda (September 19) that Ibn Seyd was
supplied in good time with a full list of claims.
25 The meeting of August 15 was the first fruit of His Maiestv’s
Government s strong representations of February 26 to Ibn Saud, that
Captnin Glubb and Ibn Seyd should meet to examine and settle past raids.
Captain Glubb s opinion at the end of the meeting, however, was to the
effect that, if His Majesty’s Government proposed to stand aside and urge
Jffn ba ud and Ira ns-Jordan to arrange matters between them, there was
not the least chance of Ibn SaTid returning a single animal. Captain
Glubb also feared that if the matter of claims were pressed home at their
th ^ 1 ° Il y outcome would b e an open rupture between himself
ana JDn feeyd. ihere were no more meetings.
, 26 - Preventive Measures against Raiding.—la a letter dated July 5
tuad Bey Hanza drew Sir A. Kyan’s attention to the supposed fact that
Kk k ?u t Q pi f vent raldin g were only designed to last over the
period of Glubb-Ibn Seyd meeting for the settlement of claims. He there-
lore asked for His Majesty s Government’s views as to how to prevent raids
While submitting the request to His Majesty’s Govern
ment, Sir A. Ryan gave his personal views in conversation with Fuad Bev
on July 7. He reminded him that it had been agreed after a definite
e A^ a n S k °k f T7 S t 7 t th ® Proclamations of Ibn Sa’ud and the Amir
. ^I f, 1 s ‘! oul , d a P p !y t0 all raiding at all times and not merely during the
Glubb-Ibn Seyd meeting. He recognised of course that proclamations alone
would not stop raiding. That must be effected by the measures taken on
both sides of the frontier and their co-ordination by co-operation between
local authorities, as contemplated in Article 5 of the Hadda Agreement
As regards measures the position was that last October His Majesty’s Gov-
ernment had fully informed the Hejazi Government of what was being done
on the Trans-Jordan side. I hey had, however, received no similar state
ment from the Hejazi Government. The best means of preventing future
nmtual knowledge of the measures taken on each fide and
(i) collaboration in accordance with the Hadda Agreement. These views
were endorsed by His Majesty’s Government and confirmed to Fuad Fllv
bv His Majesty s Charge d’ Affaires on August 10. There was no reactinb
in the direction of either (1) or (2) above. mere was no reaction
21 Raiding Criminals.—In conversation on July 7 Fuad Bey enquired
f™, AAr.? 3 t0 the P 08111 ? 1 ? re ° ardin S raidiD g criminals He was
told that the fuither points raised by the Hejazi Government had presented
great difficulty and were still being examined. Now at the end of June the
High Commissioner for Trans-Jordan had expressed the view that the raid
ing criminals formula (see May-June Report paragraph 25) should he
dropped and a formal extradition agreement negotiated in its stead Up
had therefore proposed that the Trans-Jordan delegation to Jedda be' fnlh
empowered to negotiate a suitable formula only if Hejazi opposition to a
forma extradition agreement could not be overcome. The delegation would
consist of Mr. Kirkbr.de only as the Amir Abdullah was not disposed to
send a Trans-Jordan official. If an extradition agreement proved feasible
however it would presumably be negotiated bv His Majesty’s Minister
co-operating with Mr Kirkhride on behalf of His Majesty’s Government
since the Amir Abdullah would almost certainlv object to direct
between Trans-Jordan, and Ibn Sa’ud. On Au^st 5 ffis MaiX’
eminent expressed their general concurrence, provided the Heiazi Govern'
ment were willing, but suggested that the agreement should be simiffifTn